10 sats \ 8 replies \ @premitive1 27 Feb \ parent \ on: AJ Towns censoring on Delving Bitcoin to cover Bitcoin Core backdoors ? bitcoin
"users" don't understand how lightning works at all, so they certainly aren't asking for particularl technical changes to address what they are asking for.
Yes, you're right and not only that, they're scared of changes right now, which is why patience (likely years of it) and presentation of facts is important. They are however complaining about the things I mentioned. I only say that covenants are one way of doing it and wouldn't be so closed minded as to say its the only way. If you have other ways of doing it (that don't compromise rehypothecation risk, theft risk, or censorship risk to unreasonable degrees), I'd want to read on it.
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covenant is probably a good thing on the long-term.
however getting covenants are hard to get right.
saying this as someone who spent a lot of time doing reviews on covenants over the past years.
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Users = node runners in @nerd2ninja's case I believe.
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Even then he's still right. Lots of node runners don't understand the particulars of technical changes.
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I appreciate the clarification. This whole thread demands further attention and consideration to who are stakeholders in bitcoin, and the relationship all different levels of the ecosytem interact with each other.
Things seem to be getting extremely contentious.
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I agree. You seem to be making the same point as Peter in the Shinobi episode of WBD, so you might want to listen to it if you haven't already.
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Thanks for the link to WBD...That led me to another twist in the rabbit hole. Now reading BIP-119.
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Me, I’m answering questions towards the plebs.
In my opinion, if someone should clarify its relationships with other stakeholders in the ecosystem, it should be this guy (morcos@chaincode.com). While I think a lot of people appreciate what he’s doing with the BDFL, given the secrecy which is surrounding legal matters by design, it could be fruitful to have ethical guarantees such as “we’ll never defund or threat to defund a developer defendant lawsuit solely because you’re raising concerns about how we contribute to Bitcoin Core”.
AJ Towns himself makes that “don’t bite the hands that feeds you” concern years ago on his blog platform.
Due to familiarity with all-kind-of-things-law matters, I’m far more chill than a lot of developers in matters of being threats by lawsuits including by billion-powered entities, including defending myself on my own means only if I have to.
That said, this is not the case of a lot of other devs, I think.
Alex is a single-digit billionaire so he can be busy to answer you. From my experience he’s always done to discuss, if you ask nicely.
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