1. Awareness and Belief:
    • "Do you believe predictive programming in media (movies, TV shows, books) can influence societal behavior and expectations?"
  2. Impact on Public Perception:
    • "Has a film or TV show ever changed your perspective or anticipation about future technologies or societal changes?"
  3. Predictive vs. Inspirational:
    • "Do you think media more often predicts the future or inspires the creation of new technologies?"
  4. Accuracy of Predictions:
    • "Which media work do you think has most accurately predicted future events or technologies?"
  5. Role in Education and Awareness:
    • "Can predictive programming be effectively used as an educational tool to prepare society for future technological advancements and ethical dilemmas?"
Yes87.9%
No12.1%
33 votes \ poll ended
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185 sats \ 1 reply \ @Car OP 25 Feb
thanks siggy!
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Thank you for that inspiring rant!
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Yes but its intent and effect is commonly exaggerated.
  1. It certainly can and does. A commercial can imply that something is popular, or that doctors are recommending it. Polling companies along with 'news' pundits can shape expectations and manipulate fence-sitters with fear of having their vote 'wasted.' A popular message in culture can be internalized by a segment, or even a generation (You Gotta Fight For Your Right to Party, We're Not Gonna Take It, With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility, May the Force Be With You). CIA and others would, and probably have, used media arms in foreign countries (and probably domestically) to normalize what they wish, and desensitize what fits agenda.
  2. The older I get, the more of media appears to be soft disclosure, or allegory to what the author cannot or is not willing to talk about, but I don't think it's much of it. For instance, there are TV shows and movies where corruption between federal departments and law enforcement and organized crime and globalist organizations and NGO's are depicted by people who have experience on the matter or have consultants who do. There are fictional accounts of 'possibilities' that in some capacity become more true as time passes. Not exactly, as it is always exaggerated (Demolition Man, RoboCop, Eagle Eye). There are soft disclosures or cases where media is used to make more well known the way things work behind the scenes, the 'kinds' of things that are happening, or little known situations that have already happened. I wouldn't bet these are examples of that, but it would look like this: Blacklist, Person of Interest, NCIS, Law & Order, Burn Notice. Those who believe in predictive programming overestimate the extent to which the 'programming' part is preconceived and premeditated by the author and producer. Most often I think we see people who have their finger on the pulse of the way society is headed, and an understanding of first principles and the nature of cause and effect which allows them to 'see the future,' i.e. predict where things are likely to go, or are in danger of going. Occasionally these people also have clearances and want to make a bunch of money in Hollywood and/or disclose what they can to the public, and even more occasionally they have a mandate to do so by some group or agency. In the latter case, it is cheesy and forced just as often as subtle and subliminal and ominously injected.
  3. Predicts. Rarely would the 'flying car' in a story be the first time it is thought of. However, I am sure that AI will troll fiction to find different ideas on ways of achieving things. As an extreme example, 'find all the ways to commit a murder without being caught' using all the detective movies and serial killer thrillers to help a criminal. As for more specifically technologies, sometimes fiction is used to portray technologies that are not yet public. But a creative person can imagine what must be possible in DARPA labs without having clearance there.
  4. I can't think of a particular example that's better than Idiocracy. I'm sure someone better read could find something much better from the past.
  5. 'Programming' in most contexts is going to imply 'without the subject's awareness,' and certainly where government is involved it will tend that direction. Where 'predictive programming' implies manipulation, it is always immoral and, because the universe has a fabric worth living for, (conversely nihilism is non-functional), it is also not optimal for achieving ends. But it is certainly possible that creating fiction that is known and understood to be 'a look into a potential future,' or similar, could be useful.
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117 sats \ 0 replies \ @freetx 25 Feb
All good points.
One point 1, I wanted to add that its absolutely no accident "womens liberation" movement happened in late 60s right around the time of moving off Gold standard in 71.
Gloria Steinem was an admitted CIA agent1. Its understandable that they promoted "working women = strong women" meme because they knew the era of single-income families were about to end and moms + dads would now need to both work once the devaluation was to take place..
I'm not sure if this completely qualifies as "predictive programming" or just "consensus forming" but yes the attitudes and expectations of society are being managed.

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To the extent that we all watch the same content, through various different channels, yes this is effective. Another way SN and other niche communities provide value is by creating a space which is a step or two removed from mass media.
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Media is manipulative can influence societal behavior and expectations in favor of the banks, corporations and governments.
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Watch the pilot episode of All in the Family.
The predictive programming will blow your mind.
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The new movie on Netflix about energy grids / internet being hacked by foreign governments and collapsing is fairly disconcerting…especially when it’s literally produced by Barack and Michelle Obama lol
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An awful film with even worse acting, but they didn't want to make an Oscar winner. They just wanted to tell you what they have in store for us and we need to prepare. The preppers need guns and to keep they're prepping mouths shut 🤐 (Kevin Bacons character)
A key scene in the Big Short is where Brad Pitt's character (Ben Rickert) tells the two guys seeds are going to be the new currency and not those Franken seeds from Monsanto 😂. The devil company themselves being slagged off in a big movie.
& Michael Burry now only invests in Water
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Wow 1 sat, just don't bother, that's actually insulting
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Just saw this last week, quite shocking.
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It's a truth that predictive programming can change the societal behaviour to a great extent. I believe that this can even change the mass psyche. I remember I watched a movie named 'Contagion' much before the pandemic and when covid arrived on the scene, I almost always have my psyche filled with the images from that movie. The wiki link of the movie is.. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contagion_(2011_film)
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Look, all I'll say is that if I were in charge of the intelligence community, I would be very concerned about directing the nation's mental climate in a benign direction ('benign' as defined by me) and defending it from malign mental influences from elsewhere ('malign' as defined by me).
And if I were looking around and thinking, "Hmm, how shall I do that?" 🤔 I would quicky—like Plato—identify art as the most obvious means of influencing the public. And then I would look for the biggest and most prominent and uniquely American form of art, which happens to be... 🎥 🍿 So really it would seem almost negligent not to do predictive programming, it's such an obvious part of the global info war.
But hey, what do I know?
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💯
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I think predictive programming is everywhere and shapes a lot of people and they don’t even realize
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are you planning a Carber attack?
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Sample bias.
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Yes i believe, Predictive programming is a theory that suggests that elements within popular media, such as movies, television shows, and music, are intentionally inserted to familiarize the public with planned societal changes or events before they actually occur. Proponents of this theory argue that these elements serve to condition or "program" the public's subconscious mind, making them more accepting or prepared for future developments.
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