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Finland to open 300 shooting ranges to boost interest in national defence www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/19/finland-shooting-ranges-boost-national-defence/

377 sats \ 17 comments \ @kristapsk 20 Feb news

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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @GlobalThreat 20 Feb

cool

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @TNStacker 20 Feb

https://m.stacker.news/16881

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei 20 Feb

I wonder if this will spark an unprecedented interest in tourism - other than its saunas

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitByBit21 20 Feb

Well that escalated quickly.jpg

0 sats \ 12 replies \ @Bitcoiner1 20 Feb

Will Finland end up as The States?? With many mass shootings...

21 sats \ 5 replies \ @jgbtc 20 Feb

The only problem in the US is not enough people learn to shoot and carry at all times. We have the right to bear arms but few choose to exercise that right. If there was a high chance of armed bystanders, and they didn't prosecute self defense, there would be no mass shootings. Instead there are many barriers and restrictions to legal gun possession and gun free zones where psychos can do whatever they want unabated. Sounds like Finland is being much smarter about it by encouraging responsible gun ownership and training.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @kristapsk OP 20 Feb

Don't know how it's in USA, but in Europe you don't need to own personal gun or have gun permit to go practice in a shooting range. It's business, you pay for renting gun and each bullet shot.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Fabs 20 Feb

People with bad intentions can much more easily act on those in the USA than in Europe, and having some "armed bystanders" around ain't gonna stop that.

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @jgbtc 20 Feb

There are never any mass shootings at gun shows or gun stores in the US where many law abiding gun owners open carry, despite there being very easy access to guns at these events. Sadly, most mass shootings take place is gun-free zones like schools where there are many defenseless victims to be found.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Fabs 20 Feb

The mere fact that they're a regular happening over there says enough.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @jgbtc 20 Feb

They are very uncommon (as in zero) where I live in the US. There are also a lot of gun owners in my community. It's hard to measure the effect of such a deterrent.

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @kristapsk OP 20 Feb

Why? Because people will maybe more often go to shooting ranges? In Finland since forever everybody needs to go to army and learn to shoot (even if you are NHL star).

Reason why most likely Russia will not attack, they theoretically have 1 million reserve army with 5 million total popullation.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @arrivederci 20 Feb

The reason why Russia will not likely attack is because Russia has absolutely no interest in attacking Finland

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @kristapsk OP 20 Feb

Right! LOL https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/17/world/putin-warns-problems-finland-nato-intl/index.html

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @arrivederci 20 Feb

Quoting from yr own source :

“They (the West) took Finland and dragged it into NATO! Why, did we have any disputes with Finland? All disputes, including those of a territorial nature in the middle of the 20th Century, have all been resolved long ago,” Putin said in an interview published on Sunday.

“There were no problems, but now there will be, because we will now create the Leningrad military district there and definitely concentrate military units there,” Putin added in the interview by Russian state broadcaster Russia 1.

Finland has for decades enjoyed a mutually beneficial relationship with Russia and prospered greatly from it. By now joining NATO and inviting US forces onto its territory to establish bases it has forced Russia to take defensive actions. The disruption of friendly relations and the military provocation & escalation have all been (extremely foolishly) initiated by Finland.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @kristapsk OP 20 Feb

forced Russia to take defensive actions.

You think Finland wants to get back territories occupied by Russia since 1945 or that Putin thinks it will? Finland would have never joined NATO if there would not be Russia's full scale invasion in Ukraine. Same as Sweden.

And, btw, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finlandization, relations between Soviet Union and Finland wasn't completely fair and equal.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @arrivederci 20 Feb freebie

Russia is taking defensive actions, not because it thinks Finland wants to take territory from Russia, but because Finland has invited the U.S. to set up bases right on Russia's borders, and very close to one of its major cities, Saint Petersburg.

How do you think the U.S.A. would react if Canada or Mexico joined a military alliance with Russia and invited Russia to set up bases along its borders ?

And I'm aware of 'Finlandization'. That was still a beneficial relationship for Finland (back when Finland still had diplomatic skill & wisdom) but of course I note that you are conflating the Soviet Union with Russia. We are talking about Russia, not the defunct Soviet Union. Finland has enjoyed friendly relations for decades (since 1991) with Russia, without any 'Finlandization'.