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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Bell_curve 14 Feb \ parent \ on: ABORTION and GUNS poll culture
It’s not the tool. You’re implying guns make people more violent. During the civil war in Rwanda in 1994, millions were killed via machete. September 11 victims were killed via airline jet.
Cause is not the tool but the person holding the tool
I'm not implying guns make people more violent at all. I'm saying that guns dramatically increase the detrimental outcomes of violent people. As do knives for that matter. What do you need a machete for, you're not living in an area of thick rainforest, so it's impractical to own one.
If someone didn't have a weapon they'd be less likely to be able to cause as much harm.
I agree it's not only the tool, it's the person holding that tool. So don't give them that tool so freely? I have a zero chance of killing anyone with a gun, when I don't have a gun in my hands, that chance increases the moment you hold one. Certain people shouldn't have access to guns, or machetes (which are still crazy unnecessary in any of the areas listed above)
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How do you determine fitness or eligibility?
Felons cannot vote or own a gun in USA. The problem is felons tend to ignore gun laws.
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Felons tend to ignore most laws. If they're going to break into my house and attempt to steal a gun, then they aren't going to get one. But should they break into yours, then they could walk out of there with a gun. The simple fact that one was available increases the chance that it does fall into the wrong hands. How many stories do you hear of children shooting their parents by accident? No gun no shooting accident.
As for fitness and eligibility. There are some measures in which you could feasibly employ to prevent the wrong people being able to lawfully acquire those weapons. Such as much more stringent vetting. Example not just anyone can go and work in the nuclear industry, they vet you thoroughly. Yes it's a long and expensive process, but perhaps more stringent vetting would help towards limiting gun ownership to a group of people who understand the responsibility they have as gun owners and not people who refer to guns as "gats" and hold their pistols sideways. They don't have the maturity required to own a gun as I'm sure you'd agree.
I personally believe weapons education would be far far more effective as a form of gun control than the ideas that are synonymous with the phrase gun control. I'm not calling for a ban on guns, I'm calling for a way in which to prevent the wrong people getting the wrong weapons.
The problem is then about trying to mitigate those same wrong people from unlawfully acquiring those weapons and if a weapon is in a home and the home owners not there... Then they can feasibly force access and steal that weapon.
Just an idea but perhaps secure community locations for storage, like a community armoury of some fashion? You want access to your gun for sport, go and check it out use it and check it back into a secure armoury, where it will be kept secure preventing the possibility of someone breaking into your home for a weapon that's not there. You could argue that that just provides one singular place for them to target... But I feel a community armoury would and should have much much higher level of security than the average persons home.
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We agree criminals ignore laws especially violent criminals. As long as violent criminals with guns or machetes exist, law abiding citizens and legal residents need firearms including lethal bullets for protection. Police or professionals cannot be everywhere especially during the commission of a crime.
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