All the ordinary people I queried in ES had mostly good things to say about the guys. This country used to have the highest murder rate in the world before Bukele, don't forget.

All the "humanitarian experts" in the west consider him evil. Forgive my skepticism.

It is true, of course, that there is a substantial anti-Bukele political faction. I'm sure it's not simple.

I don't mean to be rude, but what the fuck are you talking about? Which "bitcoiners" are ignoring that Chivo started out as a complete fuck up and to this day is mostly a government USD app, that happens to have bitcoin features? I feel like I've seen way more bitcoiners be critical of Bukele + Chivo and basically nobody uncritically support it. But it is the first country that practically uses Bitcoin with the blessing of the government, for all the limitations and flaws. So it's at least interesting, because of that.

There are Chivo ATMs for changing USD<->BTC both ways, and actually they work kind of well in my experience (they also have basically no fees). I'm not sure why you said KYC (you think it should be KYC? because that's how you wrote it). Anyway, it only has KYC in as much as you need to use a phone number (and it doesn't have to be an ES phone).

Most of what you're saying seems confused.