Milei and Bukele both seem to be misunderstood by US media outlets (we can argue about whether this is intentional or not).
But I have a few more questions for stackers…
  • What is the “right” way to describe Milei and Bukele? Are they both libertarians? Where do their views diverge?
  • What is the likelihood of a third party winning an election in the US?
  • What other countries might follow the lead of El Salvador and Argentina with their own “misunderstood” president?
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1409 sats \ 4 replies \ @kepford 5 Feb
What is the likelihood of a third party winning an election in the US?
In a national election? Close to zero.
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How close?
George Washington was an independent, so there is at least precedent for it happening.
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773 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford 5 Feb
Pretty close. World was very different then. You didn't specify a time frame. Over the next 50-100 years I'd say the chance increases fast. I do think the weak candidates from both parties are a signal into the door opening for third parties to win.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @kr OP 5 Feb
yeah i agree that people seem to sense a weakness on both the left and the right.
what do you think needs to happen before the chances of a third-party winner begin to increase really fast?
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If you look to our southern neighbors? Things need to get much worse. Someone needs to have real answers vs. just stopping the opposition. I've yet to see anyone on the horizon that could do this.
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1188 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford 5 Feb
What is the “right” way to describe Milei and Bukele? Are they both libertarians? Where do their views diverge?
Not sure on either of them 100% but Milei seems easier to put in a category. From what I have heard and read from people that follow him and are familiar with his background he is a libertarian from the Austrian/Mises side of the spectrum.
Bukele doesn't seem as ideological. I'm not sure where he'd fall honestly. Just because he made bitcoin legal tender, that doesn't make him a libertarian. I don't live in either country though and its their business. I think it is interesting to watch things unfold. I don't think you can look at either nation and say. See it worked. Or see it didn't work. That will happen as people love to do that but both nations have serious issues they are dealing with. Both seem to have went far left prior to the current admins. I think both rulers seem to be making better decisions than the rulers of most democracies in the world. I wouldn't say I sign off on everything either of them are doing, but then I would refuse the position if it were given to me :)
I am very confident is saying that both of these guys are misrepresented in the press and that is very intentional. Neither seem particularly "far right" to me. I hope for the sake of the people of both nations that these rulers are doing things that will make life better for them.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @kr OP 5 Feb
Agree that Milei seems easier to categorize.
I know basically nothing about Bukele, but to me he seems more like a CEO than a president.
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Yeah. Same for me.
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What is the “right” way to describe Milei and Bukele?
Bukele : Has stood up to US imperialism and its bully boy minions (e.g. the IMF). Wants El Salvador's wealth to be used for the betterment of the country and its people.
Milei : Is an obvious treasonous agent for US imperialism, the longest in a very long line of such agents. Will sell out Argentina in the old fashioned way by privatising public assets for cheap acquisition by foreign interests (mainly Western) and betray his country and further impoverish its people. Plus he's a creep and a loathsome Zionist.
So the two are chalk & cheese and anyone who thinks there's commonality between them is very politically naive.
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Before your questions: I'm Pro Milei.
Very simply and clearly from a merchants perspective, We just need to see how the export and trade of goods will INCREASE.
If they increase their exports they will make it. Smaller and Mid size B2B has to move fast on this, as people need jobs NOW.
This comes from commerce, The private sector has to do this, FAST.
Regards to question 1 - Men of action. Regards to question 2 - No one knows. Regards to question 3 - So many, but we all realize that mainly the USA puts in place who they want around the World, and of course pull out who they want we see this over so many years. Other Countries also play a big role of what's taken place in the African Continent and what Currencies are forced.
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I like the term “Men of Action”
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  • What is the “right” way to describe Milei
As @SwearyDoctor has put it: he's a complete sellout and a US empire dog
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The media hate both men because they are populist outsiders
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21 sats \ 3 replies \ @kr OP 5 Feb
In her article, Devon actually say Milei’s opponent was the populist party.
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Populist is not an ideological position.
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She is wrong She doesn’t understand populism
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Peronist is not populist or outsider
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