Don't use Muun. Muun is not a real Lightning Wallet. Last time I heard, they use submarine swaps, which can get very expensive when onchain fees are high... custodial getalby (as browser extention) or Wallet of Satoshis will do just fine for small amounts.
Phoenix is a real non-custodial lightning wallet, but fees can also become elevated when onchain fees are high and your initial channel doesn't have hihg enough capacity. If using phoenix, you should start with a large payment the first time to make sure it opens a large channel. I think, to be confirmed by other users of Phoenix.
That being said, Muun was one of the first non custodial ln wallets. It just turned out that some strategic choices they made can get expensive in high onchain fee environments. But they did advance the field and provided a pretty smooth experience from what i remember
this was a blast playing at tabconf 😅
Bro why are the fees like 4,000-6,000 sats per payment ?
What? Are you using Phoenix maybe?
How much did you pay in fees in total?
The first payment was 5 sats. The second one was 4,689 for some reason. The third one was gonna be 6,000 …
I was using Muun for that
Just tipped you the fees...
Ah that’s really cool man thank you
Don't use Muun. Muun is not a real Lightning Wallet. Last time I heard, they use submarine swaps, which can get very expensive when onchain fees are high... custodial getalby (as browser extention) or Wallet of Satoshis will do just fine for small amounts.
Phoenix is a real non-custodial lightning wallet, but fees can also become elevated when onchain fees are high and your initial channel doesn't have hihg enough capacity. If using phoenix, you should start with a large payment the first time to make sure it opens a large channel. I think, to be confirmed by other users of Phoenix.
That being said, Muun was one of the first non custodial ln wallets. It just turned out that some strategic choices they made can get expensive in high onchain fee environments. But they did advance the field and provided a pretty smooth experience from what i remember
Muun makes an on-chain payment for every Lightning payment under the hood. Wouldn’t recommend it for frequent spending.
Try Breez or Phoenix for a non-custodial option
Uh oh bad ideA
Hi there. I was about to go eat as I saw you launched a new game ;)
I was about to keep going but can’t pay 6,000 sats fee on top of each 10,000 Sat round.
What's South Korea got to do with anything?
south_korea_ln is my nym from when I was running a LN node. Hence several of my LNURL adresses contain that nym...
Last Pay Wins has nothing to do with South Korea. I just shared here that there is an ongoing game, currently the players are myself and alexl...
tell alex I say hello
Hiya
missin' ya in Miami! hoping for a bitcoin vortex in May ^_^
Sick! Ditto man, gonna try to get down to SF and come to a meetup some time soon. Hope all is well