> Nonetheless, you can still assess whether you got your money's worth from government services

 Taxation is theft. That's my assessment. 

Undergotten

I do not admit there is a monopoly on violence. Anyone can be violent.

Taxes are okay when they pay for reasonable government services

> But if they try to overtax you for more than you got from them, it's unjust, and you are under no moral obligation to give them any money beyond the compensation due for what you did receive from them. You might go to prison or worse if you refuse to pay them the full amount they demand, but some people are okay with that.

So, you admit there is a monopoly of violence and that's ok because they give you things. 



Nuttall

Larken Rose does a fine job explaining this. 

https://youtu.be/ngpsJKQR_ZE?si=XmTr8zHFQ95uSQAn

> Taxes are not voluntary. They're mandatory.

Nonetheless, you can still assess whether you got your money's worth from government services. Suppose you got about $1000 worth from reasonable government services and they tax you about $1000 at the end of the year. That is just, that is fair, there is no good reason to complain about reasonable compensation for perfectly valid services rendered by your government.

But if they try to overtax you for more than you got from them, it's unjust, and you are under no moral obligation to give them any money beyond the compensation due for what you *did* receive from them. You might go to prison or worse if you refuse to pay them the full amount they demand, but some people are okay with that.

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No, that's not the same thing at all. Taxes are not voluntary. They're mandatory. You have no choice. You are placing your trust in a central authority. 