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151 sats \ 13 replies \ @Undisciplined 27 Dec 2023 \ on: What's a mystery humanity can solve, but choses not to? Ask_SN
The high correlation between SIDS and childhood vaccines
I don't have a strong view on this, but the relationship is especially alarming, because SIDS reportedly decreased dramatically during Covid when parents fell behind on their kids' vaccinations. Not to mention that SADS (Sudden Adult Death Syndrome) sprang into existence after a bunch of adults took a bunch of vaccines.
This would honestly be a pretty easy empirical exercise for someone who knew how to access the relevant data.
Easy enough empirical exercise but good luck getting it past peer review and the medical establishment and their journalistic propagandist lackeys
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Vaccines are a curse and a blessing, ain't it?!
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The biggest problem with vaccines is the "vaccine court" mandate (ie. you can't sue vaccine manufacturers directly and instead must arbitrate via a special govt involved vaccine court). This distortion changes the potential liability heavily in favor of vaccine manufacturers.
If you spend a few moments thinking about vaccines - and how they are administered - its literally a crazy concept. Imagine you coming up with some mystery juice and the plan was to have non-doctors / old ladies shoot this mystery juice into random shoppers arms while they are in Walmart. Imagine bringing this concept to your local lawyer for approval....
Its a business model that only really exist because of the special "limited liability" distortion.
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The key issue is incentives and the state distorts them. We can argue about the safety all day but the incentives are clear and they lean hard against safety and responsibility.
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I agree and the product itself has predictably changed since manufacturer liability was removed.
I don't know if it's dangerous that vaccines have become more concentrated, but for some reason they were less concentrated in a full liability regime.
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Yep, if things take a turn for the worse for ya, you're referred to as the 0.1-in-a-hundred... Sucks to be you then, I guess...
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Great way of putting it.
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Big time, which is why I wish it were possible to have a productive and honest public conversation about them.
I certainly don't know what the right vaccine schedule looks like, but I'm pretty confident that we're giving too many too early compared to what an honest risk assessment would recommend.
I'm also certain that any product or service that is exempt from liability will become dangerous, regardless of how safe it was initially.
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I was teaching my daughter today about how to think about "science" and how there's a lot of gray area in what constitutes scientific evidence... it's easy to cast doubt on solid evidence, and it's easy to upsell weak evidence... and the decisions usually just end up coming down to commercial interests. I'm not optimistic we can ever have an honest public conversation of anything with strong commercial stakes involved
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I'm not optimistic we can ever have an honest public conversation of anything with strong commercial stakes involved
Me neither
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I haven't had my vaccines "updated" in years, until I've enlisted in the military a few months back, be it in the reserve, but still.
Me and my group got like 5-6 vaccines, dispersed over a 2-4 week period.
Nothing against covid but regulars like tetanus and ticks.
Makes me wonder what the trade-off's of those are.
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That would be interesting know. I haven't seen anything that really talks about adult vaccinations other than Covid.
Edit: We did use flu vaccines as an example of selection bias in an econometrics course.
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It's such an easy empirical exercise that it's definitely been done many times. The fact that it's not published is very telling.
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