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I'd like to become less of an idiot.
Curious what were some of the foundational books for you, ones that held up well and that you would read again, even after years of additional input.
What books helped you become a better thinker, and a broader person? What books would you most recommend to a young person to build an intellectual base to build on?
Also, would love to hear any thoughts on how to become a more discerning reader. How to make better choices on what's worth your attention, and how to process what you're taking in.
You will get (and you have) got a ton of non-fic book recs. If you really want to become less of an idiot (which is a worthy thing to want) here's my "counterculture" advice: read literature -- fiction -- that has mattered to people. You can't go wrong with the classics, but honestly, for these purposes, it barely matters what you read.
Some authors who have meant a lot to me:
  • Ernest Hemingway
  • Irvine Welsh
  • George Saunders
  • Jose Saramago
  • Jorge Luis Borges
  • James Kellman
  • Douglas Adams
  • Richard Adams
  • Denis Johnson
  • John Steinbeck
If it elicited a big popular response, or a strong critical response, if people cared a lot about it, if it has stood the test of time, it means that something in there stirred something up in lots of people, and it's worth trying to understand that.
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Really appreciate this, thank you. Picked up Steinbeck's The Pearl the other day to start reading more fiction.
I've often heard how important it is to read good literature, but have to admit that I've yet to fully internalize that attitude or habit - I've probably read 99% nonfiction after college.
What would you say to someone resistant to read things they feel like they can't "learn" from, or who feels like fiction is less practical?
Best explanation I've come across is that good fiction books can act as "life simulators" - they can take you through a range of human experience, usually extreme, so you come out the other end with something like wisdom instead of knowledge?
And maybe these works can address the more important questions, which just can't be given the same treatment in some kind of point by point nonfiction argument?
Maybe I'm coming at this too logically, and appreciating great art is the end in itself. Would love to hear your thoughts on this because I feel like I'm missing out.
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It's funny, sounds like you and I are on opposite journeys. For most of my life I never read non-fic unless it was for college or work. In the last five years or so I flipped and it was just a non-fic explosion; I may have gone years without reading fiction at all apart from this one book club I'm in that's half fiction.
Point is, I think I'm in a good position to answer your question.
What would you say to someone resistant to read things they feel like they can't "learn" from, or who feels like fiction is less practical?
But then you went on to give the exact answer I would have given:
Best explanation I've come across is that good fiction books can act as "life simulators"
Just so. Literature is life, distilled into book form. What it means to be a person, to live in the world, to struggle, to feel, to interact with others. All that blood and guts stuff. All those instruction manuals into what it's like to see the world from someone else's perspectives, all the implicit models of reality.
You can read ten books on bridges or aquaculture and what you learn there will be useful in those domain, and maybe cast a small halo onto other topics. Literature is about the universal lessons about being human, things that are hard to codify, that have been true for twenty thousand years and that will stay true.
In the years where I reduced my fiction payload by 95% I felt ... emptier, in a way. It's hard to describe. There is an "education" to being a person that you can get in ways besides reading literature, but fuck, reading literature is such a source of alpha. Even if if it brings you no joy at all, the utility of it is off the charts. But it's hard to imagine that you wouldn't get joy out of it if you followed your own heart. There's more things to your taste that are worth reading than you could read in ten lifetimes.
It's a joyous kind of training waiting for you.
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I second this idea. Recently, I started reading fictions again and it is very different cognitively than digesting information from a non-fiction book.
For what it's worth, my favorite fiction author is Kurt Vonnegut. His books are fun and pretty accessible.
Something I did when I was younger, in my quest to be less of an idiot, is have multiple books going at once. I'd rotate between fiction, science, philosophy, etc. If there's minimal overlap between the books it's easier.
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I'll give you one recommendation that is an interesting book in it's own right, but it will also make talking to people with different view points easier, which is another powerful method for being less of an idiot.
  • The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt
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Ancient Philosophy, in particular:
  • Plato: The Republic
  • Marcus Aurelius: Meditations
  • Seneca: Letters From A Stoic
If these gel with your mind, you can venture further down the Hellenistic Philosophy route.
One of my key lessons from these works is that without a "framework" of life, you typically have to make un-principled decisions from the ground up. Philosophy of that time was really geared toward building a holistic framework for life.
Further to that, I would recommend Military Strategy as a useful topic— How do the best generals through history make exceptional decisions at the highest level, under maximum duress, at the highest stakes?:
  • Sun-Tzu: The Art of War
  • John Lewis Gaddis: On Grand Strategy
  • Carl Von Clausewitz: On War
Not only did these books help my decision making, but developed my ability to build multi-decade strategic thinking as a (ever improving) skillset.
Until a few years ago, I was not a very avid reader— I still have a long way to go, but I have been an obsessive self-learner since 11 or 12. There is wisdom in some old books that has been really profound to me.
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Exactly what I was after, thank you!
Hadn't considered the military strategy topic much, just now bought the Gaddis book on your recommendation - it looks amazing 🙂
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Enjoy!
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Atlas Shrugged The Mandibles The Sovereign Individual The Gulag Archipelago
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The Bible
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Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell. Key is the 10,000 hours to become an expert. Great examples on success and honing your trade!
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Don Quixote Novel by Miguel de Cervantes. This book opened my mind for a different view. We see what we want to see we live the life we want to live, that's why someone sees ugly women around him while someone else see beautiful ladies and so on
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Thanks for this, it's been on my list for too long. Considered the first modern novel so probably a good place to start!
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Thanks! The Doyle / Zakrajsek book seems highly recommended by professors
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Brave New World and 1984, both of which were required reading before my sophomore year in High School. I wonder if either are still taught in the U.S.
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I recently asked an English teacher from a public high school in an urban (but fairly affluent) area what book he recommends for a teenager, and I was pleasantly surprised he suggested 1984.
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I'm glad to hear it too. I was in high school during the Cold War. The obvious implication and motivation for reading those books was to contrast the dystopian Soviet system versus the "free country" United States. It almost seems funny now. I can see school boards avoiding those books like the plague today.
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The interesting thing about that book is that anyone can read it and obviously see the evils of totalitarianism, but then simultaneously view the world through their favored political lens and fall for the exact thing the Orwell tries to warn us against (i.e. the "my team is always right, your team is always the bad guys" mentality).
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Maybe, but I think after the fall of the Soviet Union and the post 911 Patriot Act it would be hard not to see the obvious.
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Definitely the ying and the yang of dystopian novels, carrots in Brave New World for the compliant and the stick in 1984 for the contrarians. Atlas Shrugged is extremely long but some parts are full of incredible wisdom worth being patient for
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OLIVER TWIST as I always ask for more
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