i agree with you.
the library of great content on SN loses some of its value when items are deleted.
what do you think about charging an additional fee for those who want to delete their posts or comments (similar to the fee stackers already pay to post and comment)
I'm not sure about that. Not opposed to it. Let me think about it for a bit.
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what do you think about charging an additional fee for those who want to delete their posts or comments (similar to the fee stackers already pay to post and comment)
There was some discussion regarding this from @WeAreAllSatoshi, @k00b and me in the ticket
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Thanks, I will check that out!
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google is the #1 source for traffic to Stacker News this month, i think it’s fair to say that some of the new people joining SN are first searching for topics on Google, then reading SN threads, and then becoming stackers.
randomly deleting comments within popular threads limits the number of new people that might become contributors today.
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If the main use case for the delete in x days feature is to be able to both delete the comment automatically AND keep the sats from the comment (which I can see and is valid IMO) then it would seem reasonable to me for the commenter to pay an extra fee for the service of automatically deleting the comment.
Also if the fee would increase in the same way comments and posts increase that would help discourage over-use of this feature. I realize over-use is subjective but so is spam and all the other things the fee structure are designed to discourage.
If a person doesn't care about the sats or "credit" then they can use @anon or manually delete the comment.
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Seeing it in privacy and a few other territories. I hope I'm not overstating it. But, before it becomes "a thing" I wanted to bring it up and try to understand.
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i guess i first need to ask if you believe deleted posts/comments are a net-negative for Stacker News?
if so, would you prefer solving it with a different kind of payment (ex. flat premium subscription) or is there a non-financial approach you think would be more effective?
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Here's my question, and it is the question everyone should ask themselves when thinking about privacy.
Private from who? What is your threat model? Who is or could be targeting you? What are info are they targeting?
I don't expect answers but this is how I think about privacy. If my threat model involves nation state actors I can tell you I would not be using SN at all. I don't know the codebase of SN but if I wanted my comments to never be connected to my account... I would not use the site. I could never be sure that my comments were not preserved by someone and if my nym account was ever connected to my real life identity that I'd be safe.
These are very personal questions. Not everyone thinks about them. Many are new to the idea of online privacy and security. I don't see threat modeling and tradeoffs talked about enough. You are probably doing it right for you. I won't try to get in your head. I have no skin in the game.
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Please don't take this the wrong way but if you truly mean what you say. Protect from all then you should not use SN at all. I don't think you actually mean from all though. This goes back to my thesis that "the Internet is forever". I think that is the safest mindset to have when using the web. As soon as I visit a site I'm trusting the code, and the devs on that site. It is still my choice what to entrust them with but they already know some things about me. I can obfuscate it but when I start posting content and I authenticate we are on a new level of trust.
Just be careful. Not sure what as at risk for you. Maybe you know all this stuff. You probably do.
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Like I said, I don't live in your shoes. I get what you are saying. Do what you think you need to do.
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good feedback!
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i see, so at a certain point maybe you decide you want that comment to be an @anon comment? i think you could still receive the sats too, even if your name is not longer associated with it.
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i think you could still receive the sats too, even if your name is not longer associated with it.
Wouldn't this have the potential to d0xx the anon though?
For instance, if I want to identify the anon, and feel that I've got it down to say ten possibilities, all I need to do is watch the Sat total of those ten Stackers, zap the comment/post a large amount, say 1k sats, and voilà - if their stack quickly rose whilst the others didn't - their anonymity has been uncovered.
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