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159 sats \ 15 replies \ @okpj 9 Dec 2023 \ parent \ on: On Ocean Mining Pool, Inscriptions and Luke bitcoin
if the pool makes the way it constructs blocks public and auditable, and people agree to be a part of that pool, then nothing notable has happened here. there is nothing to discuss. if the miners values do not align with the pools values they can leave, instantly and without penalty.
we can only hope that ALL pools provide the public with their values in such detail, so that miners can decide for themselves whether or not they want to contribute to that pool.
bitcoin is for anyone, for any reason. that's why it's the best money.
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That's an extremely emotional response to my post.
So miners shouldn't choose what they mine? Are you of the opinion that miners are slaves? Bitcoin is speech and if enough miners vote to include these transactions, they will be included. This applies to ALL transactions. Transactions don't care about your ideals.
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Every miner already "censors" tx with more than 80 bytes in op_return. Why is that different than one miner "censoring" > 40 bytes? Bitcoin is "censoring" since day one my friend.
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If you have a relative moral compass then your argument stands up. If you have a moral compass then your argument fails.
If I know my neighbor is doing something I don't like I don't have to broadcast his nonsense. It's not my moral duty to help him continue. If someone else broadcasts my neighbor's nonsense then that person is part of the cabal and they conspire together.
It's moral relativism that creates Fiat (literally by declaration -- "This is a transaction!", says the King.) That's what @jimmysong is saying. There may be situations in the future where electric companies tell miner pools that of they census transactions from public keys they will give them cheaper power.
The kilowatt is a measure of work. What you are willing to do as work is what the currency really is. This is why Karma (literally work in Sanskrit) is such a large spiritual concept.
Bitcoin is the ledger and it's the one we can write to and write on if we pay such and such price. If you are a miner Luke has given to a choice as none of the above.
But the way, Luke means light its root is Lux which is also the root for Lucifer. So there is that, too. But Luke does not mean Satan which is the Hebrew, Aramaic and Arab word for "opposition".
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So what point are you trying to make?
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No one cares what you think. Don't like it? Don't use it.
Don't tell others what to do....
Done, have a nice weekend!
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Imagine calling yourself a Bitcoiner and not realizing Bitcoin has had "censorship" since day one.
Why is Bitcoin "censoring" my 5MB tx ?
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Whatever you do as a bitcoin user, you are making a choice, and you cannot evade that. We are human beings, and we cannot be 100% objective. We are moral beings.
It's fine if you don't like the Knots (Luke's client) church, but be aware that you might be choosing the Core church. The fact that the vast majority of bitcoin users go along with Core, doesn't make it less of a church. Just be aware that whatever you choose, you are making a choice.
I don't want Core to have the monopoly on the doctrine. Therefore, I am glad that there are other options and interpretations. Diversity enrichs us. The blocks that Ocean mines are being accepted by others as valid; therefore they are in accordance with the principles of Bitcoin.
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I'm kind of parallel with your ideas here:
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No they're not. Every miner and node can configure these settings as they wish.
So you do care about the principles of Bitcoin? If Bitcoin was intended as a p2p electronic cash system, do you think that storing dickbutt jpegs on chain is part of those principles or ethos?
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