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I agree with you, totally. With this particular individual, I didn't really get a solid chance to pick his brain, and I don't know when I'll have the opportunity again to do so. Just trying to figure out on what basis one would even possibly make the claim that it has "failed."
Was it a bitcoiner or crypto person? There is a trope amongst some crypto people that because there is more WBTC on ethereum than BTC locked in lightning that somehow that means lightning is a failed project. But lightning is just a network of liquidity channels that zap sats back and forth whereas WBTC is used as a collateral asset usually in defi on ethereum so the monetary velocity profiles are completely different.
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It was a quasi-Bitcoiner. Someone very much on the libertarian/Austrian side political/economically, but has an ETH node, too. I'd say he's 80% maxi, 20% crypto-bro. 100% anti-fiat. Oh interesting, didn't know and hadn't heard that before about WBTC. He didn't mention that in our brief discussion...
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