I didn’t realize that. Sounds like AMP/keysend I guess. Still, I’m not sure Lightning transport is the way but it’s interesting to consider.

k00b

Hey k00b, I hear BOLT12 plans to support messages without payments.

Using the same onion mechanism we use to send payments, without the actual payment part. You can (and people do!) use fake payments to send messages today, but it's 3x slower and consumes far more resources on each hop.

https://bolt12.org

bitcoin

[RFC] Shroom Node v0.1 released

carlos99

Hey k00b, I hear BOLT12 plans to support messages without payments.

> Onion Messages
> Using the same onion mechanism we use to send payments, without the actual payment part. You can (and people do!) use fake payments to send messages today, but it's 3x slower and consumes far more resources on each hop. 
> https://bolt12.org

Might be useful for decentralizing SN.