Why is this so hard?
504 sats \ 1 reply \ @BitByBit21 5 Nov 2023
Maybe don't try so hard. No need to convince them. You can talk about it of course, but they need to realize the need of buy it by themselves. Everyone buys at the price they deserve.
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72 sats \ 0 replies \ @bitcoin_rationalist OP 5 Nov 2023
Some people are not going to make it on the lifeboat.
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40 sats \ 0 replies \ @gabybaby 5 Nov 2023
Don't put too much pressure on yourself. You can't control how people receive the message; you can only control how you convey it. I know not everyone will be receptive when I talk about it, but I view my role as shouting into the open air and maybe one or two people will catch my drift. I can't control who it reaches, I can only control how hard I shout and what I'm shouting. Hope that helps.
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64 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 5 Nov 2023
https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/5-stages-became-bitcoiner
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346 sats \ 1 reply \ @Natalia 5 Nov 2023
For me is
- Simplify your life because complicity clouds your mind.
- keep learning about Bitcoin everyday, do tests and improve.
- Learn how to integrate Bitcoin into your life and exit from fiat world.
- Share what you have learned, and onboard people and businesses around you.
- Buidl something Bitcoiners want!
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141 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 5 Nov 2023
You are at another level already, the path to maximalism:
- https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/21-rules-of-a-bitcoin-maxi
- https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/bitcoin-hodler
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164 sats \ 2 replies \ @usagi 5 Nov 2023
I have thought a little about this. I think it's because we are in a bit of an echo chamber (the fact that we're both using stacker.news is evidence enough ;), and it's hard for us to imagine what life is like outside of this echo chamber.
We see what's happening. We know the US has $33T of debt, and that interest on the debt alone is getting close in size to the military budget, and that this is not sustainable, yet they continue to spend like a drunken sailor. We see the corruption, grift, and waste everywhere brought about by easy money. We think fiat currency is a scam (I actually think fiat currency can work in theory with responsible leaders, but in practice this seems unachievable). We understand how Bitcoin "fixes" all of this.
But for people outside of the echo chamber, even if the logic is sound, it is all much too abstract. Conditions have not deteriorated enough for them to take action yet.
Their points of contact are at the periphery:
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They may notice inflation. Maybe their rent is expensive. They may complain about it, but either they suck it up or they'll work around the problem.
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If they've been planning to buy a house, they may notice that 30-year mortgage rates have gone way up. But they're probably thinking that it will just take longer – nothing to riot about.
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Unemployment is still low, so they likely still have a job.
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Markets have been volatile, but overall still doing fine. Many stocks are not far from their 52-week highs.
So for most, life goes on. This applies even more to your average "yuppie elite" (I keep pimping this article: https://www.onceinaspecies.com/p/why-the-yuppie-elite-dismiss-bitcoin).
One of the things I'm least certain about is the timing. All fiat currencies have gone to zero, but how much longer does the dollar have? Are we going to see hyperinflation of the dollar in our lifetime? A decade ago, I could already see signs of bloat and dysfunction at my current company. Yet their revenues and stock price have gone steadily upwards. Or take a look at IBM – if companies like IBM can persist indefinitely despite massive waste and inefficiencies, what about the US government?
Finally, I have one last related thought: covid showed that we have a lot of sheep and very few leaders. Taking the orange pill requires too much effort for a sheep. They won't do it unless they're brainwashed ;)
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @bitcoin_rationalist OP 5 Nov 2023
Brilliant!
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @usagi 6 Nov 2023
Funny enough, I just came across this:
https://thelittlehodler.com/product/bitcoiners-are-undervalued-print/
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53 sats \ 1 reply \ @benthecarman 5 Nov 2023
No one likes taking investment advice
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22 sats \ 0 replies \ @southside263 5 Nov 2023
💯
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54 sats \ 3 replies \ @antic 5 Nov 2023
I started gifting bitcoin at xmas, birthdays, mother's day, but even still most of my family doesn't understand it or know what the use is. They keep looking at the dollar value and thinking it's not a good investment. A few years from now, they will wake up.
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83 sats \ 1 reply \ @027067d654 5 Nov 2023
keep a copy of the private key, give them written instructions on how to move the bitcoin to their own sovereign custody. and make sure it says in huge letters a deadline to move the bitcoin before they are swept back into your own wallet to gift to someone else who will appreciate them.
I've given bitcoin to friends, family, and strangers and many of them simply lost/forgot about it.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @bitcoin_rationalist OP 5 Nov 2023
This is an amazing idea!
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @bitcoin_rationalist OP 5 Nov 2023
This is a great idea.
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40 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheWildHustle 5 Nov 2023
Join the club freak.
They'll starting calling you once the bull starts taking off.
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32 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scholarhacker 5 Nov 2023
I can’t convince my family to accept and self custody of $10 worth of Bitcoin as gift.
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31 sats \ 1 reply \ @037447d9ca 5 Nov 2023
don't worry. they'll call you asking how to buy right in the peak of the next bull run
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @bitcoin_rationalist OP 5 Nov 2023
Perfect timing
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31 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 5 Nov 2023
A common problem among bitcoiners
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30 sats \ 3 replies \ @quark 5 Nov 2023
First you need to become a Bitcoin millionaire, then they will listen carefully.
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71 sats \ 1 reply \ @SpaceHodler 5 Nov 2023
What's a Bitcoin millionaire? Someone who has 1,000,000 BTC?
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @quark 5 Nov 2023
Well that would be the definition. That's almost impossible. I should have said a fiat millionaire thanks to Bitcoin. That's easier ;)
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @bitcoin_rationalist OP 5 Nov 2023
🤣
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22 sats \ 0 replies \ @southside263 5 Nov 2023
if they were in Nigeria or Argentina it might be easier to understand bitcoin.
they dont need bitcoin today, thats ok too.
they might buy at 100k or 1M 😂
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheBTCManual 6 Nov 2023
Lol because its their property you have no say over their property, only your own, let people do with their property as they see fit
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @drlh 6 Nov 2023
You are not the user
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Ge 6 Nov 2023
If u can't just be the example when price appreciation happens they'll be back 💯 happened with all my family n friends have a buddy fall into btc now and my parents stack
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @JesseJames 6 Nov 2023
"... You can bring a horse to the water, you can't make him drink..."
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @027067d654 5 Nov 2023
What reason are you giving them to buy $100 worth of bitcoin?
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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @bitcoin_rationalist OP 5 Nov 2023
Basically telling them that the only wrong allocation is a 0% allocation, that bitcoin is the scarcest asset that’s had ever been created/discovered and that they should own even just a small slice in the case it sky rockets.
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20 sats \ 0 replies \ @knorozov 5 Nov 2023
In other words, just relaxed, have patience, sit back...
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20 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby 5 Nov 2023
Send them 10 dollars worth
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41 sats \ 1 reply \ @SpaceHodler 5 Nov 2023
They will ask the OP how to sell it.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 6 Nov 2023
Possibly. But this hasn't been the case in my experience. I have gifted people sats from 5-50 dollars worth and all of them at least lie to me and say they still have them.
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20 sats \ 3 replies \ @Natalia 5 Nov 2023
why don't you gifting them some sats to have a fun start?
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @bitcoin_rationalist OP 5 Nov 2023
I’ve tried this- it seems like people forget they have them
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22 sats \ 0 replies \ @chaoticalHeavy 5 Nov 2023
Yeah that's a waste, don't bother with them.
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20 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 5 Nov 2023
Great point. And wait till they WANT to buy $1000 worth. #few
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @erict875 6 Nov 2023
This brings to mind a quote I've heard in a podcast recently. I paraphrase:
"Some people learn through reason, some through the consequences of their actions, and some never learn."
(https://fountain.fm/episode/0M0K293xZlCwF6B7ektl)
We should always keep this in mind when trying to help others.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @bitcoin_rationalist OP 6 Nov 2023
Words of wisdom
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