I fully agree with making a big stink out of it as I mentioned, it's great that bitcoiners rightfully call out the BS and try to keep newcomers away.

It's necessary and the right thing to do, don't wanna suggest we don't do that. Unfortunately, though, I think the reality that many bitcoiners are gonna have to come to terms with is that a lot of adoption will likely come through this shitcoining fiat nonsense.

We'll build countless fiat-style financial tools with Bitcoin, and while it may not be "right" in the short term, the long term trend I think shines even brighter. This weird blend of fiat and bitcoin is BOUND to happen, and it IS happening. Doesn't mean you have to take part in it, but better to get somewhat comfortable with it, because it's gonna get a lot worse.

The good thing is that all these fiat incentives provide more opportunities to learn about the virtues of Bitcoin and honest money.

Bitcoin ETFs are bad, but if they never existed, like you said, people would never learn why they're bad, and why self custody matters. Bitcoin adoption is brutally fair. They will find out the easy way (through listening to bitcoiners) or the hard way. We can't just dream and wish for a smooth adoption process that's devoid of the fiat reality we are living in.

Fiat is simply just more familiar to most people. Doesn't make it right, but if we want Bitcoin to truly weed out fiat, it's probably gonna have to do it from within. Like the HORSE!!