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337 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 9 Oct 2023
GrapheneOS gives you choices. You can be completely degoogled. You can use some cloud services, and not google. Or you can use google as needed. Like privacy it is about choice.
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33 sats \ 12 replies \ @nikotsla 9 Oct 2023
I am really comfortable with Graphene OS, the installation method is pretty easy. If you don't have enough to buy the supported phones, just try to lower your dependency of google.
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43 sats \ 11 replies \ @DarthCoin 9 Oct 2023
What I do not understand is why people go and install GrapheneOS and then put Aurora Store and install again all the crap apps they had before from google play store...
If you really want to have a full de-googled phone, so install ONLY those apps that respect their users and post also an apk link for direct download or github open source repo.
I use LineageOS because I consider that I am wasting money with a brand new expensive Pixel device. Is just fine, with no google traces and I installed only the apps that I really needed: bitcoin LN and 2-3 others. Nothing else, no more crap.
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33 sats \ 1 reply \ @nikotsla 9 Oct 2023
I am with you in this, but seems that some user case needs google apps for their job, at least according to the article.
In my case, there is no trace of google apps and with a couple of apps I am fine, some installed via F-Droid and others with the apk (mostly new software).
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 9 Oct 2023
this is like the same chicken and egg story...
The same old excuse to support the evil system of fiat.
I am going to use a "bitcoin visa debit" card because my grocery store is not accepting bitcoin.
So in other words, I am buying bitcoin to give them back to a visa affiliated company that gave me back fiat. So I will never bother that merchant to accept bitcoin, just go and pay with visa, for him will be same as usual.
Instead of pushing that merchant to accept bitcoin and never touch fiat again.
Yeah you can say "but I am saving in BTC bla bla bla" but is not the same, you are literally supporting the use of fiat.
Same with these de-googled phones... people are terrible at letting things go away.
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31 sats \ 3 replies \ @kepford 9 Oct 2023
Not sure you are saying this but for the record GrapheneOS is more than just degoogled but also provides a way to use Google services. My understand is that it has many hardening items that LineageOS does not. Same goes for CalyxOS. Graphene is not the same as Calyx either.
Adding Aurora Store could be done on any of these OSs and you are right about that. It doesn't make sense to degoogle and then add a ton of cloud provider apps that track your every move. That said not every app is doing the same tracking and you can look at each app on a per app basis and make an evaluation.
To me, the broader question is do you need all this crap on your phone or can you access these things from a laptop that doesn't track your location every minute of the day.
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20 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 9 Oct 2023
THIS
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 9 Oct 2023
yes, dephone is the way, you can pretty much do everything on laptop, I think a simple phone with few LN wallets is enough in the future.
part of me also want people going back to write letters šš
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @nikotsla 9 Oct 2023
KEY
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10 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 OP 9 Oct 2023
You're right. I have not used Aurora. The problem I guess is for people who need Google Apps for work.
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53 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 9 Oct 2023
then they should keep the old shity device only for that.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 9 Oct 2023
This is a good approach.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 9 Oct 2023
Good idea
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Hypnagog 9 Oct 2023
Install insular and create a work profile. Insular is on fdroid and it allows you to compartementalize your big tech apps and even freeze them.
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