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1672 sats \ 7 replies \ @TonyGiorgio 15 Sep 2023 \ parent \ on: What are the principles underlying SN's development and growth? meta
Love all of this dialog!
This is one of the most interesting things about being part of SN and watching it grow. It's something that resonates with incentives that should matter a lot to us (sats) vs all of the other aspects of being an identity on the internet. Everything becomes (subconsciously) a weighted decision pinned up against one of the things I know many of us here value the most. So all the things I say regarding SN is more on the intraspection of how I personally feel amongst this dichotomy of a world @k00b has created.
Though eventually competition kicks in, and it's not the only place to have sat incentives that line up here.
A few concepts that stuck out to me yesterday:
And it is true. There's a bit of a concept of random username which isn't important most of the time compared to the content, and the aspect of internal community IYKYK kind of thing if you do glance at the name and recognize it.
Watching things evolve on nostr too is interesting. Sat distributions are probably some distribution of
- tiny sat value friendly fires
- Crafty ebegging
- Bullish/worthy news/developments/updates
- Anything from a major influencer
I think it's heavily weighted to #3 here which is the predominate reasons I come. It's going to be different for everyone though and that's okay. There's definitely a bit of a commons problem though. Going back to "I want people to pay for what they want to happen here", it's on me to make sure that happens if it's not happening like I'd like it to. I need to be the change I seek, tip more for this content, give credit / conversations / etc. back to these pieces. But that becomes more effort on my part and that's a cost with the hidden side effect that eventually the thing I like stops appearing here because I'm incentivizing it less.
I'm saying "I/me" more than @k00b here because I do really believe that at the end of the day, it does fall on us, with the nudges of influence from him. Things like the rewards, formats, when to unlock subs, etc. etc. The sats (and thus incentives - unless skewed too heavily towards different reward biases) at the end of the day are on us.
I'm saying "I/me" more than @k00b here because I do really believe that at the end of the day, it does fall on us, with the nudges of influence from him. Things like the rewards, formats, when to unlock subs, etc. etc. The sats (and thus incentives - unless skewed too heavily towards different reward biases) at the end of the day are on us.
This is really on my mind, too. I've kind of bounced around btc-related spaces and bounced off all of them, because there's never really been a place where anybody seemingly cares about the stuff I care about. It's mostly regurgitating the hot takes people have internalized from other talking heads, as per your item #4. @kepford convinced me early in my SN "career" that this is no worse in bitcoin than anywhere else, but still, the brain damage was disheartening.
When I came here, I decided to see: what if I invest? Can I help make the thing that I want to exist? Or at least, a little corner of the community? Bitcoiners should be my people, and they're not. But could they be? SN is so right on in so many ways to put this to the test, brilliant design that actually encourages real discussion, good incentives, thoughtful visionary devs who keep iterating, etc. So it's on me to do my part and see if there's any demand.
It sure won't happen if I don't take action, that's the only thing I know with certainty.
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eventually competition kicks in
I'm such easy competition. I give everything away.
I need to be the change I seek
While the people who think this way are my people, most people don't think this way so we can never rely on it.
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I'm such easy competition. I give everything away.
Maybe evidence indicates that I'm a collaborator and maybe we should all distrust anyone framing it otherwise.
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Has someone been framing it otherwise?
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Eh. It’s all beside the point
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I'm confused by the competition comment. I think of it as sat reward based competition, ie nostr vs SN, not really competitor competition... If that makes sense.
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I don’t think I misunderstood you and I didn’t mean to imply you meant anything by it.
I just reject the framing because people are using it as an excuse to treat us “different.”
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