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LN Subscriptions: Looking for solutions to automate Lightning Payments
7804 sats \ 17 comments \ @VEINTIUNO 13 Sep 2023 bitcoin
we are looking somehow to activate LN subscriptions for one of the project we are currently working on. My research or SN and some cases of custom implementations
Have recently discovered ZapPlanner.albylabs.com , they have a WP plugin that is really useful but no integration with the ZapPlanner (for now).
wondering if the community know or can refer any solution working atm.
Thank you
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6 sats \ 5 replies \ @TonyGiorgio 13 Sep 2023
We do lightning subscriptions in Mutiny. Will have a lot more external support soon.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @VEINTIUNO OP 15 Sep 2023
This is great, look forward to check it out. Thanks
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @VEINTIUNO OP 15 Sep 2023
This is great, look forward to check it out. Thanks
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @SovranSystems 14 Sep 2023
How does this work? As I was just talking with a friend that will use lightning if it had subscriptions.
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18 sats \ 1 reply \ @TonyGiorgio 14 Sep 2023
It uses the nostr wallet connect mechanics to allow a service provider to request that a specific wallet pay a specific invoice. You can do that whenever you want, whether at checkout or once a day / week / whatever.
Then on the wallet side you can either do something like loading it on next open or even push notification to show the user there's a pending payment request. You can even allow the user to turn on auto pay w/ a budget if they wanted that too.
It's a protocol that would across any wallet and doesn't need the user to be online all the time, or any specific server even.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SovranSystems 14 Sep 2023
Thanks for the good info on this!! I will study and give it a try. Much appreciated.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @supratic 14 Sep 2023
Apparently also Coindebit is working on a solution, should be ready soon
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @endothermicdev 13 Sep 2023
I'd really like the recurrence feature to make it back into the BOLT 12 spec as that would make lightning subscriptions easy to manage natively. Want to cancel? Just disable the offer from your node.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @VEINTIUNO OP 14 Sep 2023
Agree, a consensual BIOLT12 implementation will fix the same issue much easier...
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0 sats \ 7 replies \ @Alby 13 Sep 2023
Hey! Yess, this is an interesting usecase - that's why we came up with the Zapplanner.
What specifically are you looking for? A non-custodial solution? Or a tool thatyou could connect to your Wordpress?
Good luck!
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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @VEINTIUNO OP 15 Sep 2023
Have been trying it and try to make it simple for the subscriber to create one using this link like https://zapplanner.albylabs.com/create?recipientLightningAddress=VEINTIUNO@getAlby.com&amount=21000&timeframe=months&message=VEITIUNO%20Subscripciòn%20mensuàl for each subscription, trying to autofill the required fields differently for each link. Doesn't look to work 🤔
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @rolznz 18 Sep 2023
Hi, your URL is invalid - for example the timeframe should be something like 4%20weeks rather than just "months" (note: months is also unsupported), and the parameter for the recipient lightning address is just "recipient"
Could you double check it again against the developer guide in the footer ?
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @VEINTIUNO OP 19 Sep 2023
Ok, I did try but nothing still... I found out it maybe because the inputs are required and autofill isn't allowed.
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1000 sats \ 2 replies \ @VEINTIUNO OP 19 Sep 2023
Cool, just found this on the docs. That's super cool! Thanks https://zapplanner.albylabs.com/confirm?amount=21&recipient=hello@getalby.com&timeframe=30d&comment=baz&payerdata=%7B%22name%22%3A%22Bob%22%7D&returnUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fexample.com
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @VEINTIUNO OP 19 Sep 2023
... and in case you'd like to try
https://veintiuno.world/participa/#subscriptor-sats
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @rolznz 19 Sep 2023
I’m glad you got it working!
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @VEINTIUNO OP 13 Sep 2023
Ideally w'd like the WP plugin to enable subscriptions in WooCommerce checkout. If you have ZapPlanner API or something will be great to have.
Basically something like this in the settings
https://void.cat/d/5AAcPqMHjW2ySz7UBjYNf9.webp
Where you'll have the same fields that ZapPlanner offers currently and the option to create, edit, suspend and delete subscription as if they were WooCommerce products. So ideally you'll create new subscriptions from this page but also from the WooCommerce > Products page
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