That's a good way of putting it. It's at the interface between the people, what they become together.

I have my gripes w/ Peter (e.g., the 30 minutes preamble blathering on some of his episodes drives me crazy; as does his penchant to interrupt, esp with stupid jokes) but I think in a decade, if the btc experiment is successful the way many of us hope it will be, Peter will be considered one of the giants who made it happen. Not just bc of the pod, but the soccer team, the pub, the wider cultural propagation that doesn't look like religion.

He's a gem. Wish we we had more of him.