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How do you feel about your recent rewards?

2802 sats \ 65 comments \ @k00b 20 Aug 2023 meta

I wanted to follow up and see how the reward changes feel. We rewarded 137 stackers yesterday which is the highest number in a long time. In part this is due to the reward changes but also the generosity of federated computer.

I'm getting too much17.8%

I'm getting too little20.0%

I'm getting the right amount62.2%

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383 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford 20 Aug 2023

Just make sure SN is sustainable long term.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ryu 21 Aug 2023

Provide the rewards pool with liquidity, and it shouldn't be a problem.

I just hope more people are putting in what others are getting out in rewards.

200 sats \ 3 replies \ @2bithits 20 Aug 2023

Amazed with how much I've been getting. I thought it might ave something to do with the 18m sats returned from that bug. So I'm enjoying it while it lasts

83 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b OP 20 Aug 2023

We haven't even begun to juice rewards with the forbidden sats yet!

71 sats \ 1 reply \ @2bithits 20 Aug 2023

Really?

Well, I've been surprised with how much I've been getting. It IS making me use it more & try to keep my hat

41 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 20 Aug 2023

Yep, it's coming from the ad and the reward distribution changes.

203 sats \ 0 replies \ @Longtermwizard 20 Aug 2023

Nice, I am getting used to zap even more now.

305 sats \ 6 replies \ @lawndough 20 Aug 2023

The more I earn, the more I zap 🤠

23 sats \ 5 replies \ @nemo 20 Aug 2023

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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @premitive1 20 Aug 2023

is it a house if no one lives in it?

13 sats \ 3 replies \ @nemo 20 Aug 2023

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13 sats \ 2 replies \ @kenn_b 21 Aug 2023

some basically do :)

13 sats \ 1 reply \ @nemo 21 Aug 2023

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SatsCats 21 Aug 2023

BTC is the house, and the fiat countries are the punters.

118 sats \ 0 replies \ @bitcointerest 20 Aug 2023

Rewards are definitely better than expected.

221 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 20 Aug 2023

The only reward that matters is the time spent with friends.

But I will take more sats if you are offering.

161 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 20 Aug 2023

The true reward was the friends we made along the way.

76 sats \ 0 replies \ @blocktock 20 Aug 2023

Keep 'em coming...

121 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 20 Aug 2023

Kudos to whoever said they're getting too much. I would never complain about "getting too little", but you also won't catch me admitting that "I'm getting too much".

220 sats \ 6 replies \ @TonyGiorgio 20 Aug 2023

Something I have seen in this space long enough is what happens to Bitcoin companies that specialize in sat rewards to their users. Eventually it is unsustainable and eventually it is lowered. Then the users that were hunting for each and every sat will turn on you. I would keep it strictly "p2p" tbh and abandon rewards all together. Top users should get more in quality content and are incentived to tip quality content in order to keep quality content coming.

270 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 20 Aug 2023

It's hard to articulate but it does seem to get “user attention” to another social platform requires some sort of incentive model built in partly because of the ridiculous amount of options a person can share their opinions. Keeping it p2p seems letting off the gas a bit. I think leaving it up to the community to decide is ultimately the right decision at least on sn. I enjoy the rewards but my bigger worry is about the multiple accounts stacking sats and leaving them abandon.

183 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b OP 20 Aug 2023

That's fair. History generally does repeat. People do feel the loss of something (e.g. rewards) more than they're likely to feel the gains.

For now most rewards are coming from ads and imo if any revenue should go directly to stackers its the ad revenue. Perhaps that should be the only source of rewards.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @nemo 20 Aug 2023

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23 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 20 Aug 2023

This will be a forever debate for the company. Sudden and significant fluctuations in rewards might lead to some kind of doom spiral but IMO the more significant the product value otherwise the lower the risk. (I'm not saying our risk is low.)

120 sats \ 0 replies \ @elvismercury 20 Aug 2023

I care just a little about rewards as an indicator that my contributions are valued, and that feels good. I zap stuff that seems substantive, and some people do that with me, and the rewards that came from that are financially immaterial, but psychologically consequential.

Do you think anybody really cares about rewards as a way to earn actual money?

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @premitive1 20 Aug 2023

I enjoy the thrill of stacking for my contributions to the website regardless of their source. I don't even look at the stats which they make publicly available. People gaming the algorithm are their own worst enemy, and they can "turn on the site". their leaving simply decreasing the noise.

113 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 20 Aug 2023

It feels generous at the moment. Almost too generous…. but only almost lol

120 sats \ 1 reply \ @benthecarman 20 Aug 2023

I'm profiting every day, seems pretty cool

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 20 Aug 2023

Same 🤙

110 sats \ 10 replies \ @premitive1 20 Aug 2023

Starting about when I put the SN webapp in my apps list, I actually started earning more than I zapped, but I also engage more.

Did you already explain why you're accepting ads? I feel like perhaps in SNLive but I don't recall what was said

62 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b OP 20 Aug 2023

kr thought it'd be a sustainable way to give out more rewards and that that'd be a good thing.

tbh I don't like ads and wouldn't have chosen to do it on my own ... but I give kr (and ek and well anyone who is willing to put in the work) the freedom to test their hypotheses.

(snl 👀)

123 sats \ 1 reply \ @birdeye21 20 Aug 2023

at least ads have been implemented incredibly tastefully...subtle but clear, perhaps truly valuable for some people here, and well worth the additional rewards to the community imo! Sat velocity is way up

34 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryptocoin 21 Aug 2023

I had no idea there even were ads. I even saw that nym @ad and it still didn't register that it was an ad.

13 sats \ 6 replies \ @nemo 20 Aug 2023

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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @premitive1 20 Aug 2023

I don't want to call it SNL for perhaps obvious reasons, and I have a podcast I often call SNLit.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @nemo 20 Aug 2023

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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @premitive1 20 Aug 2023

Whether it's cool or not it's also a trademark

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @nemo 20 Aug 2023

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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @premitive1 20 Aug 2023

I'm a pirate of data, not reputations!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 20 Aug 2023

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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Wumbo 20 Aug 2023

Many good things about the new reward system but top of my list is the visibility into why one got rewards.

Example:

you earned 45 sats (0.03%) #98 in post zapping for 45 sats

110 sats \ 1 reply \ @iguano 20 Aug 2023

I need to write more to tell :)

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryptocoin 21 Aug 2023

Rewards are (currently) paid to those who zap.

You may get what is zapped as upvota for for your writing, but you won't get rewards as well unless you too zap.

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @JesseJames 20 Aug 2023

Good, Value4Value, I zap back even more now :-)

46 sats \ 0 replies \ @ProofOfWorkFitness 20 Aug 2023

It's awesome 😎!

Stack SATs, Get Fit is what I always say.

The rewards help me take care of the hard part so I can focus on staying fit.

40 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 20 Aug 2023

As a user, I'm obviously very happy about the size of the rewards.

But if I were running the site, I'd worry about the long run behavioral effects when you can easily earn more than you put in just by zapping stuff. It might incentive bot behavior or centralization on zapping certain types of posts

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @thebullishbitcoiner 20 Aug

I just came back after a while away and was really glad to see the daily rewards again. 🤙

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @dieselbaby 21 Aug 2023

Haven't been here for a hot minute, I'm a bit of a dumbass and I accidentally thought I'd screwed up my method of logging in, before realizing that I hadn't and actually had my e-mail account tied to this the entire time. Glad to see all the good peeps of Stacker News are enjoying getting some juicy sats rewards. I've just topped up le olde Alby wallet with some a fresh supply of them, donating some to the donations pool to spread the love around <3

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Alby 22 Aug 2023

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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @_redacted 20 Aug 2023

Rewards feel good due to the recent ads but if/when there aren't ads I'd rather see some tempering of recent posts vs any changes for being early in zapping. Recent posts seem to be very sat-seeking "throw it at the wall and see what sticks". Makes sense for rewarding mods to sort through it but tough if the rewards drop but post volume increases.

10 sats \ 4 replies \ @TheBTCManual 20 Aug 2023

lol you're being far too kind to us plebs, where is the yield coming from? :P

10 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b OP 20 Aug 2023

The ad system everyone hates! https://stacker.news/ad/all

41 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 20 Aug 2023

Not me. I am not here to get rich or assmilking sats. But ads are ok imho. I hope will come more interesting ads. I prefer paid ads instead of spamming with useless tweets or hidden ads in articles pretending to be "free" or shills in disguise.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 20 Aug 2023

Do not hate the "ad system".

42 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 20 Aug 2023

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87 sats \ 0 replies \ @OriginalSize 21 Aug 2023

I don't really care as long as it's fair. I send these sats on to users here and on Nostr.

2 sats \ 0 replies \ @TraViesO 20 Aug 2023 freebie

I am getting the right amount

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @AllCatsAreEvil 21 Aug 2023

It's an interesting model that could provide a positive feedback loop leading to more contributors further increasing the value to advertiser's. I saw a couple of people point out that if there's a sudden change or drop in rewards some people may turn on you, but tbh, all the while you're providing a long form forum space like this, the rewards are just a nice little bonus.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @llamabyte 22 Aug 2023

I'm still a little sore i lost all those sats in that big exploit a few weeks ago.