0 sats \ 6 replies \ @03365d6a53 14 Aug 2023 \ on: Why do many bitcoiners still trust fiat software? bitcoin
It seems a bit disingenuous to harp on about 'FOSS-as-a-service' when Federated Computer itself is not FOSS (the linked github organisation has no public repos).
Cloudron by comparison is $15 a month for unlimited domains, and you can run on your own machines
https://www.cloudron.io/
cloudron is $15 paid annually or $30 monthly but there's no email hosting only clients like roundcube. it's more like umbrel in the cloud which makes federated a great deal with email/data hosting and sso.
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That's completely untrue, there is a fully-fledged built in email server, with catch all, works for all your domains, you can configure group access to mailboxes, etc etc
You won't see it on the list of apps because it's not an app, it's core functionality and you will find it under the main system menu
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It's up to the user to configure. If the user doesn't configure the domain correctly, email doesn't work. That's not the way Federated works. Everything works from the very beginning without the user having to configure anything. Different approaches. Different types of customers.
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Actually no, you just give them your cloudflare API token and all the configuration is done for you.
It's not like setting up a custom domain on, say, protonmail where you have to set DMARC records etc
You just "add domain" then click "new mailbox".
Anyways - I would like to change tack and offer you guys some encouragement, I like what you are doing (encouraging the move away from centralised big tech), and $39 isn't actually that bad when you consider the cost and hassle of hosting, I just think you should be a bit more honest and straightforward in your marketing that's all.
Claims like "free for stackers" (actually, just one year), "FOSS-as-a-service" (but the service isn't FOSS) and "100% private" (when this part cannot be verified, and ultimately still runs on servers you control) are misleading at best.
The service honestly sounds good just don't sell it as (or make it sound like) something it isn't, that's literally my only beef anyway.
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Cloudron is a great service. It's like Umbrel (another great service) in the cloud.
Confused, however, about the github point. Does Cloudron open source it's software? Or just the open source packages it offers?
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Cloudron is not open source, but it is source available - https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron
They also support many of the open source packages they rely on:
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