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We have 13 people committed to the NFL survivor pool. Not bad! That will be at least a 130k sat payout to the winner and likely more, assuming some people will want to re-buy.
I was watching a bit of tennis last night, which I rarely do. But I have a bit of fondness for the Canadian tournament, which is now called the National Bank Open. Around 20 years ago, I was working for a company that used to sponsor the tournament, so I used to get free tickets and go every year. That created a bit of a habit of going even after I had started my own business and no longer got free tickets. I saw some really great matches and memorable moments over the years: Serena in the finals, Sharapova as a rookie (going back a long ways here), Andy roddick smashing aces, and even an exhibition match between Pete Sampras and John McEnroe.
It seems like tennis is on the decline with younger people though. I rarely see kids playing at our local court. I also think this is occurring with golf and maybe a number of other sports as kids now seem more interested in playing online than outside. When I was a kid we played every sport, even if it was just for fun. Now, even with my kids, I find if kids do play a sport they specialize in one and really don't bother with the others.
This has me thinking about the future of sports, and what sports with be impacted the most by a decline in participation and interest among the young.
Shill me the sports you think are NGMI.
Sats for all.
Cheers, GR
I think baseball. The pace is too slow for this tiny attention span world.
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I would agree but I think the rules changes will help. I don't see baseball going away but I could definitely see it being more regional interest based.
Also, there does seem to still be interest in kids playing ball. Our local baseball league, where my daughter plays Tball is very popular and the diamonds are always booked in summer for games and practices. So I am hopeful.
I have always had a dream to buy a minor league ball team. Maybe one day I will be able to buy an A ball team for 1 bitcoin.
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That would be great! I go to a local stadium to watch a minor league unaffiliated team.
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They probably all get bought up by investment funds etc driving up the price. The waves of liquidity will grow higher and higher as fiat dies. Folks next to the printer will be flooding money into every asset.
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I think the low pay for minor leaguers and the long path to the majors for most will also play a role in declining baseball participation
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Yes, but the guy who toiled 8 years in the minors and got called up for his first game is such a compelling story that is unique to baseball. But while it is compelling for fans of the game and adds to the uniqueness of baseball, spending 8 years making nothing, travelling on buses probably isn't that compelling for players these days.
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Hey @grayruby - I think tennis and golf suffer from the the move towards professional level junior sports participation. The best in the world started very young (ie Tiger, Alcaraz, Williams sisters etc) and were coached / groomed for success.
Sports on the decline; NFL and rugby (in Europe) The concussion risk is so well highlighted and the governing bodies, by not acknowledging it sooner, have lost a lot of parents support regardless of the recent rule changes.
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I agree with the tennis and golf comment.
It will be interesting to see what happens with football. Definitely youth participation is down but interest is still high so it's a question of will a lack a participation eventually lead to an erosion in interest.
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I don’t follow football these days but my sense is we will see youth participation amongst a poorer, more deprived demographic as a way to access college education. We can celebrate sporting achievements in that cohort all we want but it had the potential to come at great cost and will the wider interest be maintained?
Not sure how attendance at college games is holding up post-lockdowns etc but that may be a good indicator.
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@grayruby - Where can I read more about NFL survivor pool? I am in. Been caught up in work so I have not spent much time here lately.
It pains me that baseball is seen on the decline. Its such a cool and interesting sport with many little strategic games within the game, and stats/data that persists through time. ie. a .300 hitter in the 1900s was a great player as is in the 2020s. Not many other sports can say the same. It has a rich and complicated history that almost tells a story along side the American experience for over a century. I personally stopped caring about baseball for a decade, so I totally understand, and I credit the Ken Burns Baseball doc and the 10th Inning with bringing back my appreciation for the sport. Its a seriously incredible watch even for non sports fans.
I think all sports will survive, there is too much financial incentive behind it. Its a matter of if it remains to look anything like it does today. American Football for example, I think you will see fewer and fewer young children playing the sport and instead play flag football, which will eventually change the game vs the violence we see now. There will always be people that make the choice to sacrifice their health for a paycheck, but overtime or a generation, the game will look so much different.
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Great response.
As for the survivor pool. Here are the basics. 10k sat buy in. Pick one team each week of NFL season. If your teams wins, you move on, if they lose you are out. Catch is you can only use a team once. There will be one chance to buy back in if you lose prior to week 9. Last player standing gets all the sats.
That's the broad overview but we will have a post soon defining rules, deadlines, where to send buy in sats etc.
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I think they're all going to make it. As we get materially wealthier, more and more things can be supported. As long as there's a niche market to satisfy, the sport will persist.
I think we might see some of the professional leagues scale back on their subsidies for the affiliated women's leagues. Since there's basically no consumer demand, eventually the greedy owners and players will want that money for themselves.
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Hockey equipment and ice times are too expensive for many and I don't see it getting more affordable
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Yes. Living in Canada I have definitely seen this. Even in hockey country, many parents don't put their kids in hockey anymore. It is still popular for kids to play but almost everyone played league hockey when I was growing up and now I only know a few families whose kids play hockey.
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Anyone play fantasyPL? Could start a stacker league. I’m not technical enough to somehow incorporate sats into this equation but if someone was I’d be keen to make it interesting.
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I know fantasy PL is very popular. I am sure you could start something on SN. I don't really follow PL so I wouldn't want to be part of administrating it but if it's something you want to take on and manage I will definitely participate and lose some sats.
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