21 sats \ 3 replies \ @frostdragon 3 Aug 2023 \ on: Why Everyone Should Care About Privacy tech
It’s interesting that privacy gets brought up so much in bitcoin circles like this one. Not that this post talks about bitcoin, but I want to point out a couple of things:
Bitcoin doesn’t solve the privacy problem. It’s a public ledger, and the hoops you’d need to jump through to avoid being detected by digital forensics are massively extreme, if not impossible for most people
We need to think about the internet differently. If you want privacy, get off the internet. There are things you can do to help cover your tracks, and that’s where this post is helpful, but it’s important to acknowledge that this isn’t a complete fix.
For example, VPN’s aren’t a complete fix. First off, your traffic is already encrypted without a VPN, and the only thing an attacker in the same network can view is the domain of the website you’re visiting. If that’s concerning to you, you should be aware that by using a VPN, you’re giving that info to them instead. It’s still a trust relationship, and if you have trust in their integrity, you also have to have trust that their cyber security and grasp on complex
cryptographic protocols is bullet proof (spoiler alert, it’s not).
And - even with a VPN - that traffic is still going somewhere. You’re almost certainly interacting with a server and database controlled by someone you can’t fully trust to keep your data safe.
Yes - do what you can to mitigate this stuff - use a password manager, etc.
But think of it this way - everything you send or receive over the internet is going or coming from somewhere you can’t fully trust.
We need to think about the internet differently. Complete internet privacy is all but non-existent.
You make some good points. There are tons of tradeoffs. You cannot use the Internet with bullet proof privacy. I can't go out of my house without breaking privacy. This is why you have to start with your risk profile first. Many people I have talked to about privacy that are knowledgeable about things you describe have just given up. Their mindset is what is the point. That's defeatist and we have to be careful to find the line of making priorities and being honest about the effectiveness of our efforts.
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Yeah, definitely don’t want to be defeatist, but I don’t see transitioning our lives off the internet as defeatism.
There are things you can do to help privacy online, and everyone should do those things. I just think the default mindset should be “if it’s on the internet, it’s likely not private”, and adjust their interactions with it accordingly.
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I don't think getting offline is defeatist. I was saying people that hear things like that often become defeatist. As if privacy is a boolean. Either you use a phone or the Internet or you have privacy. Privacy isn't yes/no. If people can disconnect I don't consider that defeatism.
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