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566 sats \ 2 replies \ @shibe 18 Jun 2023 \ parent \ on: Competing with Apple and Google - A Weekend Discussion tech
IMO the closed source nature would be kind of a dealbreaker. Isn't GrapheneOS fully open source (and by nature, compatible with Android)?
I tried Sailfish on a Nexus 5 many years ago (probably 7 or 8 years at this point). It's nice to see that Sailfish is still going, but it's also not nice to see that they still haven't opened up their system fully despite that being the biggest complaint I've seen from Linux users wanting to make the switch.
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262 sats \ 0 replies \ @final 18 Jun 2023
Isn't GrapheneOS fully open source
Depends on how you look at it. GrapheneOS only supports devices which recieve hardware firmware updates. That firmware is closed-source, but the OS entirely is.
There isn't really a 100% open-source phone anyway.
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116 sats \ 0 replies \ @mudbloodvonfrei 19 Jun 2023
I respect that. I also imagine it's a constant point of contention for the folks behind Sailfish.
It takes money to compete with Google and Apple. The fully open Linux on mobile distros like Ubuntu Touch, are half-baked; they're not for ordinary people, they're for tinkerers. I like to believe that Sailfish would release their code once they got traction (they could pivot to hardware for example), but for now, they have employees to pay
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