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3260 sats \ 22 comments \ @mudbloodvonfrei 11 Jun 2023 bitcoin

I'm not a huge fan of social media (SN is my first active use of any social media in years), but Reddit is a very useful site for getting information about a variety of topics. I will often prefer it over a traditional Google search with all of its SEO-optimized bullshit AI-generated listicles.

I don't really know what's going on over there but it seems a lot of users are pissed over the API cost changes. I actually don't think there's anything immoral or wrong with charging for access to information. Reddit has salaries to pay and servers to maintain. However, the users are the real value creators on all social media, so I think that the SN model will speak to a lot of them. You basically say "you let us run the business, but you will be paid for the value you create". I love it and I think many others will too.

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503 sats \ 0 replies \ @OriginalSize 11 Jun 2023

Did a quick analysis and I suspect I'd have made a million sats if I'd have posted here instead of all my redditing. That's the future I want.

394 sats \ 8 replies \ @02ad8239c2 11 Jun 2023

came to SN to escape the redditards, and all their socialist chuntering - far better for them to wallow in their own mess over there, don't want them crapping on this doorstep at all.

513 sats \ 7 replies \ @FrickFrickFrick 11 Jun 2023

You should give truth social a shot. Will find more people who can coddle your sensitivities.

3 sats \ 5 replies \ @02ad8239c2 11 Jun 2023

lol, pure projection

53 sats \ 4 replies \ @FrickFrickFrick 11 Jun 2023

I am not the one who moved sites because I couldn't tolerate the people on it.

32 sats \ 3 replies \ @02ad8239c2 11 Jun 2023

you came to me

30 sats \ 2 replies \ @FrickFrickFrick 11 Jun 2023

You came to SN.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @02ad8239c2 11 Jun 2023

you seem upset by my comment enough to reply, it's all projection from you - bye

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @FrickFrickFrick 11 Jun 2023

But I am not upset. I find your logic interesting. Have a good one.

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @02d769cb73 11 Jun 2023

Honestly, i'd imagine a lot of SN users have drifted away from (in particular) the r/Bitcoin sub due to the bad noise to signal ratio. I did too.

Having said that, and maybe being a bit demanding (?), there's still rather too many link only posts here IMO, ( but hey, i'm hardly the most prolific poster or commenter, so i probably don't have the right to complain).

25 sats \ 4 replies \ @guts 12 Jun 2023

I was an ex-Digg who joined the exodus to Reddit, learned and had great conversations with many anonymous users. Reddit was already on its eternal September add Reddit was already taken over by astroturf, AI farm bots and censored by state government.

SN and Tildes feels like what old Reddit used to be. Looking forward outer.space

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @mudbloodvonfrei OP 12 Jun 2023

I've been meaning to sign up for a tilde. Any recommendations? My experience of the early web was IRC chats and geocities. It was all downhill from there. SN is a paradigm shift improvement. I hope it lasts. I think that once you get people used to the idea that participation can either cost you money or earn you money, it's easier to tweak the incentive structure to keep things cool, useful and fun. So I'm optimistic.

25 sats \ 2 replies \ @guts 12 Jun 2023

I agree about SN model I think with Nostr will be a game changer. I have seen bad reviews of Lemmy because it's nature using ActivityPub and people disliking the developer because his communist ideas. You can ask for invite at invites @tildes.net, I can't pm invites here in SN.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @mudbloodvonfrei OP 12 Jun 2023

Cool! I actually wasn't familiar with tildes.net, I thought by "tildes" that you meant the tildeverse. Looks cool though, I'm going to check it out.

I didn't realize that the guy behind ActivityPub was a communist. I did briefly run my own mastodon instance out of curiosity, but I noticed that other instances had very strict moderation policies and would blacklist other instances that didn't have the same or similar policies. It also seemed that a lot of users were refugees from Twitter because they didn't like Musk's position on free speech, which I found to be a bizarre reason to flee to a less centralized, more open platform. I'm definitely a huge fan of free speech so I found that somewhat discouraging.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 12 Jun 2023

Oh I meant Lemmy's developer is accused as communist and other ideas American lefties dislike. I agree I am still using Twitter and still working fine, even community notes are a huge welcome.

44 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 11 Jun 2023

The problem with the new API pricing seems to be that it's too high. It's not about not paying. It's about paying an unreasonably high amount (compared to APIs of other companies). The reason for such high prices seem to be to kill 3P apps to drive more users to the official app.

34 sats \ 0 replies \ @mudbloodvonfrei OP 11 Jun 2023

I see.

In any case, it's a losing battle. The attention economy is a zero-sum game. Social media companies are essentially utilities that were inflated into Big Tech giants due to a low interest rate environment. Now they have to make good on their promises to VCs, but maybe Metcalfe's law is a more fickle moat than many hope for. Nothing wrong with being a utility company. Problem is having delusions of grandeur that can't be justified by a free market.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 12 Jun 2023

Apollo is a great app. My reddit use will decrease significantly without it...

33 sats \ 3 replies \ @FrickFrickFrick 11 Jun 2023

SN is not going to able to poach very many Redditors. The sites attract a totally different audience and center community around content radically different.

SN/HN is basically the Craigslist of content and link aggregation.

43 sats \ 2 replies \ @tnuts420 11 Jun 2023

i came from reddit

43 sats \ 1 reply \ @OriginalSize 11 Jun 2023

Me too. I was a very good redditor. It's hard not visiting as much but SN is closer to my heart and it was time to move to a smaller newer community.

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @chaoticalHeavy 11 Jun 2023

me too