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This episode is also in another, earlier, post here on SN, using the Fountain.fm audio podcast link:
Pierre Rochard on Launching Kraken's Lightning Integration #17708 https://play.fountain.fm/episode/7538374766
There's also a four minute clip from this episode that was featured in its own post here on SN:
"Lightning is not only faster than all blockchains, it's impossible to be faster than Lightning." #22840
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