I'm not the one making any assertions here, I'm asking questions and trying to figure out what the actual claim is, because bitcoin is not inherently private. 

mewtwo

I think we need to drop the idea that freedom is a boolean. It is a sliding scale and privacy is linked to this. Same goes for money. Same goes for privacy, and even success. Unless you are defining what these terms mean with very specific language we will just waste everyone's time.

kepford

Coinjoin is different from a mixer. No I don't think that is the assertion.

bitcoin

No Privacy? No Freedom. No Freedom? No Wealth. -- sats forward to ODELL

I'm aware of things like this - so the assertion is that bitcoin can only be successful w/ mixers?