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How did Trump cause damage to the gulf states?? The US and Israel attacked Iran alone and for some reason the IRGC spastics thought that was reason enough to launch thousands of drones and missles at 5 other countries that had nothing to do with it. They killed 11 civilians. At that rate we can expect them to kill about 70 gulf state civilians for every 100 US soldiers. For what?? I really doubt attacking neutral countries helps the IRGC's case. They weren't militarily involved. The IRGC made the call to attack them anyway. And then you want to get on your moral high horse about the US talking about potentially attacking Iranian civilians when the IRGC already did it to countries that weren't even attacking it.
Trumps invasion has caused the Gulf States huge economic losses.
He failed to inform them of the invasion and dragged them into it.
As a supposed security partner to them he showed no regard for their sovereignty and security.
Many will be now considering alternative security arrangements as are many other countries formerly aligned with the USA.
Pakistan also risks being dragged into this conflict with its mutual support treaty with Saudis.
The risk of wider escalation is real and terrifying if Trump continues to perpetrate war crimes on behalf of Israel.
There is less than 30% support for this war in the US and falling rapidly because it is criminal and insane to continue - there is much lower support globally.
Trump has shown the USA is a puppet and bully owned by Zionist Zealots.
Nobody wants to be aligned to such a toxic and corrupt USA...except the Zionists who own the USA and use it to further their insane Greater Israel Project.
The Zionists have zero respect for the USA or anyone else.
They can see the US is in decline and are using and abusing your situation to further their own insane 'end of times' agenda.
He failed to inform them of the invasion and dragged them into it.
Let me get this straight. If the US, hypothetically, initiates a surprise attack on Beijing, and the PRC responds by launching missles at Taipei, then somehow it's our fault that Taiwan got attacked?
The US didn't drag the gulf states into it. They weren't involved until the IRGC made a choice to attack them. Informing them of the plan wouldn't have changed the IRGC's decision. And it also wouldn't have stopped you from claiming that somehow it's our fault that the IRGC attacked them.
None of the economic consequences are comparable in any way to getting attacked with missles and drones.
Let me get this straight. If the US, hypothetically, initiates a surprise attack on Beijing, and the PRC responds by launching missiles at Taipei, then somehow it's our fault that Taiwan got attacked?
Absolutely Yes it would be.
You can't just leave them alone in that situation? You have to drag Taiwan into it? For what? So you can use them as tax revenue for your totalitarian slave state?
Invade any country and you will find they have the right of response and that right will often include attacking any territory aligned with you the invader...especially if they are hosting your weaponry...they are obviious and legitimate targets for the defending nation to target.
Any fucking moron, even Trump would know that.
The Gulf States did not ask for nor want this war- Trumps slavery to Israels expansionist war crimes dragged the gulf states in and has cost them dearly.
You have a loose definition of "aligned" if it lets you launch missles at countries that aren't attacking you. The gulf states weren't involved until Iran attacked them. That's just common sense.
But okay, you have a "right" to respond however you want. You don't have a right to win.
If you want to stop the war crimes then New Zealand might as well strike the US now before we move on to the Pacific front.
Haim Bresheeth, professor at the University of London’s School of Oriental and African Studies, says this is far from the end of the war, despite a ceasefire and ongoing negotiations, and that the Israeli public knows this.
“This is not even a ceasefire at the moment because Israel is firing at Lebanon,” he told Al Jazeera, adding that if Trump is “unable or unwilling to stop this”, it shows “weakness”.
He said Israelis feel they are at a “cliff edge” because of the ongoing conflicts, and pointed out that Israeli public support for the war has dropped, and it will continue to fall.
Bresheeth describes the conflict as a “war forever” that serves Netanyahu’s political survival. He warned that Americans will blame Trump for being led into what he called the first US defeat since Vietnam.
“This is not done in the interest of Israelis or Americans or anybody else.”
The Gulf States host US military bases. That is explicit military alignment.
USA and Israel invaded Iran.
I would fully support NZ cutting all military and economic ties with the US right now tbh...and many others globally will be thinking along similar lines.
It is not good being aligned to a nation that commits serial war crimes and is led by a sociopath.
More and more of the world is realising this.
2/3 of US citizens oppose this war and rightly so- it is not serving USA- it is only serving Israels Greater Israel Project and the war crimes and genocide that involves.
Maybe although we have not had the draft since Vietnam and we have no formal military alliance with US since we refused to allow US nuclear ships into our ports in the 1980s.
Even though we still remain in 5 eyes...we were removed from ANZUS which was the former military alliance between US, AUS and NZ for our 1980s anti-nuclear stance.
It ultimately depends on the government have- the one we have now is pretty subservient to the US military industrial war machine but our opposition is less so, and they are likely to win this years election.
To most countries being militarily aligned with the US looks increasingly unattractive.
It will be interesting to see if the Gulf States stick with US petrodollar-military subservience now after Trump caused them such unwanted damage.
Like most countries much more of our trade these days is with China- the biggest market by far for our primary produce exports. USA never gave us a FTA- we have had one with China since the early 2000s- in fact were the first western country to get one.