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I'm allergic to this word. There's no such thing in a consensus network. That's the entire point of consensus by running code: nothing official, only choice. No pre-sorting either because the outcome is per definition up in the air. If you can manipulate it beyond your worth, the system is broken. [1]
What Carter and Dathon are doing feels like politicking. I don't want Bitcoin to be political money.
I 100% agree with this sentiment. Especially since, when one carries real arguments, one gets ignored. Your comment? Didn't exist. I speak from recent experience. Hah.
However, per the note below, I am observing similar politicking elsewhere too. This is important to at least be wary of. It's not just 2 individuals that are vocal on X. There are lots of them, people with actual influence too. We have to keep calling it out, especially when people we want to like do it.
I don't like arguing with maintainers or their close colleagues. I know the shit job they've got. But, I will keep doing it. I'll even try to do it respectfully, which is arguably the hardest part for me because I've grown to like the savage way. But I try.
Voskuil
I have to pace myself in Voskuil admiration sometimes, haha. He often says things I agree with though. Including this quote.
Note: the system may actually be a bit broken. This is the one point I will concede to BCH shitcoiners. Not that their conspiracy theories are correct - they're unlikely to be, in my (informed-ish) opinion - but, there are powerhouses and eventually bitcoiners will need to challenge these if they don't self-destruct. That's also what I like about what Atack is saying - though in that case I again don't like much of the rationale. Can't stay stuck in the Covid trauma. Need to move on. Do shit. Not whine. ↩
As usual, I have lots to learn here. Ease of getting eyes is something that I certainly wasn't considering. In a way, I'd say that Ordinals is an evidence that there is very much a way around the BIPs system: apparently lots of people figured out how to do ordinals things without there ever being a BIP.
In my various disputes with Dathon Ohm, one thing that has frustrated me has been their use of the word "official." I find it very frustrating that Bitcoiners talk about anything in Bitcoin being "officially supported" or "officially implemented" or whatever.
Having a single BIPs repo feels a lot like an "official" BIPs repo. I believe this is what nettles me about it a little.
The response I want to give to folks like Carter or Dathon is that there is: what are you waiting for? Do you expect others to do things for you? Put your proposal out there and convince others to use it.
I suppose they would say this is exactly what they are doing.
I appreciated this by Voskuil:
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What Carter and Dathon are doing feels like politicking. I don't want Bitcoin to be political money.