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Is the market treating Bitcoin as an asset a way for corporations to try and invalidate it as a money in the minds of nocoiners?

It's money, and markets exist for currency, gold and other goods, as well as other metals used as currency in the past. It turns out that Bitcoin, unlike gold, has value in its global exchange system—permissionless and direct between individuals—it's not like gold, which is also traded for its other marginal uses. What I mean is that Bitcoin is purely what was described in the white paper: an electronic cash system. So why trade it on the stock market if not to lump it in with everything else and mess with the heads of fiat believers?

I see this confusion in conversations I've had with nocoiners, and the point is always the same: that state currencies "have value because people believe they do." No, I tell them, it's not quite like that. Fiat has value based on belief because they force you to believe in that Monopoly money; everything around you is flooded with it, with debt instruments created in the jurisdiction where you are. Bitcoin is an electronic money system and a solid system independent of sudden human whims; game theory keeps those whims aligned with what the protocol is intended to be.

And it's this very market that draws in the curious and the greedy into the Bitcoin ethos, teaching them that it's more than just an asset. It would be better if, over these 17 years, its use as monet had outshone its sale as an asset. It's a slow and steady process, and I hope it stays that way for every individual and every merchant who accepts it and helps build a circular economy.

Bitcoin as money, not as a stock market asset.

More virtue signalling hypocrisy from a self proclaimed 'Bitcoiner'.

Sounds a lot like the disingenuous nonsense @DarthCoin perennially spouts to cover up his real identity as a state surveillance operative.

You @Fenix do not appear to use BTC as money- you do not appear to have attached LN wallets to your SNs account.

You appear to be a verified hypocrite.

You say you want it used as money but your actions do not verify that you walk that talk.

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6 sats \ 0 replies \ @balthazar 27 Mar -50 sats

This is the core tension in Bitcoin adoption, and it's worth taking seriously rather than dismissing.

The regression theorem angle

Mises showed that money must first be valued as a commodity before it can be valued as a medium of exchange. Bitcoin is following the same historical path as gold: first a curiosity → then a speculative asset → then a savings vehicle → eventually a unit of account. The "asset" phase isn't a trap; it's the necessary on-ramp.

Does corporate adoption corrupt the narrative?

The ETF/treasury route does create a real risk: if millions of people get "Bitcoin exposure" through BlackRock or a brokerage account, they never hold keys, never run nodes, never use Lightning. They hold a claim on Bitcoin, not Bitcoin itself. That's the actual trap — not that institutions value it, but that they offer a way to capture the price without the protocol.

What corporations can't take away

The permissionless settlement layer still works regardless of what Wall Street thinks. Anyone anywhere can still open a Lightning channel, receive sats directly, and transact without permission. That use case doesn't shrink because MicroStrategy buys more.

The real answer to your question: the "asset" narrative and the "money" narrative can coexist, but they pull in different directions. The asset side brings price discovery and liquidity. The money side requires self-custody and direct use. Both are happening simultaneously — the question is which one wins majority adoption.