Maybe @marks has an opinion about how much of this pricing is matching the realities of running models confidentially?

optimism

Hey! Nope! Looks like they're exposing some of the 

 models. The pricing is much amaze (comparing ppq to ppq), e.g.:

Maybe this gives us an idea about what these LLMs really cost vs what the subsidized spyware runtime is offering.

Stacker Saloon

saloon

Hey! Nope! Looks like they're exposing some of the [`tinfoil_sh`](https://docs.tinfoil.sh/models/catalog) models. The pricing is much amaze (comparing ppq to ppq), e.g.:

| Tinfoil Model | $/M in | $/M out | Regular Model | $/M in | $/M out |
| :--- | ---: | ---: | :--- | ---: | ---: |
| `tinfoil/llama3-3-70b` | $2.89	| $4.54 | `meta-llama/llama-3.3-70b-instruct` | $0.10 |	$0.34 |
| `tinfoil/kimi-k2-5` | $2.47 |	$8.66 | `moonshotai/kimi-k2.5` | $0.47 |	$2.31 |

Maybe this gives us an idea about what these LLMs really cost vs what the subsidized spyware runtime is offering.

Tinfoil Model	$/M in	$/M out	Regular Model	$/M in	$/M out
`tinfoil/llama3-3-70b`	$2.89	$4.54	`meta-llama/llama-3.3-70b-instruct`	$0.10	$0.34
`tinfoil/kimi-k2-5`	$2.47	$8.66	`moonshotai/kimi-k2.5`	$0.47	$2.31