and this is why illegal immigration will continue

People voted for Trump to stop illegal immigration but deportations are so unseemly 

the silver lining is we can focus on fraud and embezzlement in MN

Remember when the blackest person in MN used to be Prince?

> The scenes of chaos and violence only help the far-left, and as such I place a lot of the blame on them for the recent deaths.

Yeah, at the end of the day people prioritize order over chaos. I too think the public was turning, not because they are suddenly ideologically siding with the protesters, simply because they want the bad news to stop.

freetx

My reasoning was that Trump is all about optics.  He doesn't mind the optics of rowdy protests, since I think that on net it hurts the protesters more than him.  But it's gotten to the point where he can't control the optics, and now American citizens have been killed.

I disagree with this, or, currently I do at least. The scenes of chaos and violence only help the far-left, and as such I place a lot of the blame on them for the recent deaths. I'm not by any means justifying the deaths, but the far-left's rhetoric of fear and 'everyone is a fascist' is at an all-time high and those that succumb to it are putting their bodies on the line and getting hurt. This shouldn't come as a surprise after the literal calls to put "bodies on the line" from Dem officials recently. It's very sad, and worrying, and I don't know where it ends.

mostly_harmless

Ray Dalio's comments on the beginning of our new civil war

elvismercury

> My reasoning was that Trump is all about optics.  He doesn't mind the optics of rowdy protests, since I think that on net it hurts the protesters more than him.  But it's gotten to the point where he can't control the optics, and now American citizens have been killed.

I disagree with this, or, currently I do at least. The scenes of chaos and violence only help the far-left, and as such I place a lot of the blame on them for the recent deaths. I'm not by any means justifying the deaths, but the far-left's rhetoric of fear and 'everyone is a fascist' is at an all-time high and those that succumb to it are putting their bodies on the line and getting hurt. This shouldn't come as a surprise after the literal calls to put "bodies on the line" from Dem officials recently. It's very sad, and worrying, and I don't know where it ends.
-Tom