I've often wondered why DocuSign is so popular. From a quick google search it seems like they have 55% and 60%- of market share for e-signing. And while they do make the experience pretty smooth, I shiver a little every time anyone sends me a docusign link: it's basically me just trusting that DocuSign has too much too lose to tamper with things -- which maybe isn't such a bad trust assumption.
Anyhow, here's a pretty cool open source nostr version of docusign. It was posted on SN a year and a half ago (#730956), but it's worth checking out if you're curious.
Are these signatures somehow legally binding?
This seems great for p2p where trust is high amongst peers but would this work for an actual employment contract or something more complex like legal agreements?
Why do you need a 3rd party as gov agency to validate your signature? Why is not enough the same online tool you were using?
Personally, I don’t need a third party but let me give you an example of what I am asking.
I have been the victim of fraud in the past.
A past employer forged my signature on a paper contract to pressure me to do something that wasn’t in my original employment contract. They tried to add to my job description without a pay raise.
I cited my Docusign contract as the only viable contract and what I would use if I needed to take legal action against the company. Some corrupt employees loyal to management said they would lie in court and claim they witnessed me sign the paper contract.
In my case, the Docusign contract was all I had as any proof on my end. I’m just wondering if this contract service would also somehow stand up in court if I had to take legal action.
wow what a scumbag
usually you have a digital trail / registration that can prove, no matter if the company is "approved" or not by any authority. You only need to prove the existence of the signature in a certain moment, like an unmutable blockchain.
I'm pretty ignorant here, but I don't think DocuSign is what makes a contract legally binding or not -- at least for myself when I've signed stuff with DocuSIgn, the parties to the contract provide the documents (which express the contract) whether it is signed in person with a notary or via DocuSign or via this p2p platform seems like a question of how the contract was signed -- not whether it was signed, nor what the contract stipulates.
I think that a contract signed by sigit could be just as legally binding as a contract signed via DocuSign. Probably has more to do with your ability to prove that whatever key signed the contract is controlled by the party who claims to have signed the contract.
I guess what I’m wondering is…
whether or not any court would uphold a signature from some random service OR does Docusign have some special sauce that makes it legit.
According to AI…
“A DocuSign agreement becomes legally binding through electronic signatures backed by laws like the U.S. E-Sign Act and ESIGN, which treat digital signatures the same as handwritten ones if intent to sign is clear.”
That’s exactly what I’m thinking. Would be awesome for small agreements amongst Bitcoiners but could it be used for actual legal disputes if parties can’t prove they are the ones who signed.
LOL such bullshit
I totally agree.
Doesn't matter how you sign a contract as long as you can prove that signature.
Important is to have a proof of existence of that signature, like a notary that certify it was signed by the people mentioned in the contract.
What you are looking for is this https://www.proofofexistence.com/prove or this one https://signatura.co/
Yeah. I’m trying to figure out if this service could prove my signature.