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WTF is the problem?

They literally had not trained any safety towards nudity into Grok 4.

Is the problem that it is training users to be national socialists as opposed to rainbow warriors, because, I'm pretty sure that if Grok trained users to ask about pronoun usage and holding hands together to defeat the evil that is carbon dioxide, I'd want some pretty stringent safety tests so my kids would not fall victim to the perils of socialist globalism.

The AI-generated undressing has been bad - I know a few people that have gone from full Elmotard to eternally disgusted over it. I think the problem is moving fast and breaking things on a platform that has a couple 100M daily users.

175 sats \ 2 replies \ @xz 11h

Okay. Thanks for the upshot. I read more and got a better idea.

Thing is like the article states, any of this can be done, has been done, .. and ultimately will be done. If it wasn't Grok, it'd be ChatGPT, I guess. I suppose the only difference is that it doen't have the reach.

Pretty sure, it wouldn't be so different 'share image' 'upload to facebook'. Something seems off to me. There's undoubtedly a campaign against the 'free speech media'.

I feel at a loss, whenever I hear of people self-harming because of ChatGPT, or indecent deep-faking on x. Probably because I don't use eith, never have, probably never will. Besides I don't share images of myself. If I was a celebrity, maybe I'd be a bit pissed over CGI rendering of myself. But am I even allowed to say it just sounds so overblown?

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any of this can be done, has been done, .. and ultimately will be done

There are probably a million apps out there that will let you nudify whatever you want. The difference is indeed reach [1] and that's why I don't like what happened to Twitter in the past couple of years (also before Elon took over fwiw.) Good stewardship means you do not alienate your users with mistakes, as established products aren't a good sandbox. Dividing social networks into political bubbles is awful, imho; all it does is create echo chambers.

But am I even allowed to say it just sounds so overblown?

I do think that there's a lot of hysteria out there, in this I'm totally with you. In this case though, it's been pretty bad in terms of not only the xAI team not doing good work up front, but also being pretty awful on the response.

Caught with their pants down, no stable diffusion needed.

  1. This is also why on my "dayjob" FOSS project I maintain I'm a complete a-hole when someone comes in with some bullshit PR and tries to push it instead of listening to review comments: I have to defend the installed base (millions) that are used to very high quality code. I don't care if someone forks that repo and does their own thing (as long as they don't lie or ride my years of careful maintenance work as a reason why their stuff is great) but it's not going into the main repo if it sucks, and whenever I feel my own code isn't properly reviewed, I force a hold off merge on that too (which happens a lot these past 2 years.)

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That gave me flashbacks to last year's Core PR/force push tribal vibes.

I have no more respect to give to anyone than I have for FOSS developers, though I don't donate as much as I should to the maintainers of software I use.

I guess the ethos of the handfull of projects that serve the 90+% of ai and social platforms are not necessarily as conscientious.

Interesting, that where one platform alienates its userbase, another one gains traction.

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The AI-generated undressing has been bad - I know a few people that have gone from full Elmotard to eternally disgusted over it. I think the problem is moving fast and breaking things on a platform that has a couple 100M daily users.

this ^ and 👇

Threads overtakes X on mobile, but still lags far behind
Threads edges out X in daily mobile users, new data shows

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