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please correct me if i'am wrong

Yes you are wrong.

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And is nothing wrong using some credits INSIDE SN.
SN will not make any big difference in "changing the world" with bitcoin.
If you really want to change the world, stop using fiat outside SN. That will make a difference, not by using some meaningless CCs inside CC.
SN is a game. That's all.

Yes you are wrong.

i fail to see what is wrong with my argument

If you really want to change the world, stop using fiat outside SN

i try to do that whenever i can, but why are you making an exception for sn?

i asked before if it is about the price. i think i would understand the argument if you say: using ln on sn costs more than using cc and that is why i use cc. people try to save on costs, which i can understand

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SN is a game not a real world. A game that use some credits is just fine.
I spend my sats in REAL world not in online games.
I earn in sats, I spend in sats, I save in sats. That's all. SN is not a real world.

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not sure i can follow what you mean with the real world. i guess you draw a line which defines what is in the real world and what is not. and for the things not in the real world, like a game, you're okay to use credits. i think i understand your reasoning

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Did you play online games? Like World of Warcraft is the best example. You have some kind of in-game currency to buy and trade stuff. Is not a REAL world, so why would I use real world money in a game?

I use my sats (real money) for real stuff that is important for me: house, food, security. And I spend it wisely.

SN want to make some experiments using LN and sats? Fine with that, I "buy" CCs with sats and that's it. I do not need to attach any external wallet because I am not trading anything real in the SN game. We are just talking here. And to have a system of control, talking with credits for upvotes.

Not everything in this world must use sats. That is a wrong concept of bitcoinization.

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i understand you now a lot better than before. i think where we differ is, that i don't make a difference between real world and a game. i played wow and i think replacing the ingame gold with bitcoin would be awesome, people exchanged the ingame gold for fiat. for me credit is an extra abstraction, which i try to avoid if possible. but i understand now, why you use cc. and you mentioned cashu, which also seems to be a credit based system. in the end it is a scale and not everyone can transact on the bitcoin base layer. there has to be some trust involved. and everyone is free to choose what to use. free to disagree or agree with the decisions others make. peace!

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Blizzard do not have to add bitcoin in game. Just add a simple way to exchange gold wow for sats if the user wants to convert them for real world money.

Adding real sats in WoW will be stupid and again creating a lot of friction and not necessary hassle.

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