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Why don't movements and institutions ever move right?
This is a very good question. I don't have an answer. I dont know that I would say never because there probably have been times in some of them.
I don't think we are seeing this now regardless of what people say about DEI and climate stuff. It's still there in them they are just cloaked now due to the new admin. At best it's a paused.
One reason in modern times at least is that the modern right wing movements seem to lack actual principles. They have a lot of positions but most are reactions to the left.
There are exceptions but it's not the norm.
The left has no principles. They are results driven. The ends justify the means.
Conservatives are all about principles. We can’t lower ourselves. We have to be better than the left. We should not abuse power because the left will abuse power.
With conservatives the means justify the end
A different way to say it is that conservatives aren't united by any particular principle. So conservatism isn't based on a specific set of principles.
It's not that individual conservatives are unprincipled people, although many are.
Yes, that's what I am trying to express.
For example the left is always opposed to completely free markets. They do not shy from this. They are opposed to inequality. Of kind and outcome.
Any right winger who opposes all regulations is usually called extreme by those in his camp. Those that say taxation is theft are extreme.
The common conservative stance is to only be more moderate than the liberal left wing Democrats. Lower taxes. Not oppose them. Reduce regulations not eliminating them.
You can say they have principles but they are based in opposition to a more extreme left wing stance. They are reactions. They aren't based principles on their own.
You have to get into the libertarian side to find actual based principles. One can think both extremes are wrong but I think it's hard to say they aren't principles.
Another way of putting it is that Democrats and Republicans are more alike than different to me. The difference is mostly in degree. There are exceptions but history seems to show that the Republican and right is drifting leftward in both their view of law and morals. They are just slower to progress left than progressives.
I'm not sure it's that either the left or the right lack principles. I think it's that modern social media makes it so that any principled movement is too easily hijacked by click baiters and rage farmers.
Politics is downstream of technology, too.
I've heard this case before and I think it's basically correct. Conservatism is kind of an umbrella for everything that's pushing back against change. Principles usually require one to push for specific changes.
Who has principles?
Very few people
At best it's a paused.
This seems very black-pilled, especially for you. Isn't the best case that you're wrong and these course corrections are real?
I actually agree that it’s a pause and not permanent
Maybe so. The black-pilled part is thinking that's the best case possibility.
They are right at the moment, but we need to see if that's more than a temporary course correction.
What institutions do conservatives dominate?
Podcasting? Independent journalism?
I didn't mean that they are dominating any, but there's a lot of movement away from the woke insanity and abandoning of climate alarmism.
Isn't widespread dumping of DEI departments a rightward movement?
Yes but I wouldn’t call it a movement
Colleges are still admitting on the basis of race despite the Supreme Court decision in 2023
That's just a semantic disagreement then
Yep.
I'm beating a dead horse but it really annoys me. TPTB also love for people to look over at their neighbors and focus on the issues in their schools, government, and institutions. This is what Christians do as well. Instead of looking at failure and success and trying to learn, then see what we can do in our own areas of influence and control we just stoke our egos about how much better we are.
This is why movements and institutions just keep drifting leftward. We have hit a point where people have been awaken from their slumber but they have a comical level of over-confidence that things are shifting in a more than temporary way.