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That is like the nightmare scenario to me because I'll surely be caught up in the Peoples Republic of California

I mean... I think people exaggerate how bad California is politically. In reality its more like a left led European nation. Not China or North Korea. When I visit states like Texas all I hear is "how can you live in California?". Its funny to me because I do comparisons between states taxes/fees and laws. And states like Texas, Idaho, and Oklahoma are less than the freedom loving havens right wingers like to believe.

Covid over-reach did wake some people up and reversed the drift in red states but honestly I don't think enough woke up. It simply delayed the drift left in all states. I hope the people in other states wake up fully but I don't really see it. I for sure don't see it in California. Things have to get a lot worse sadly.

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Texas is the biggest freedom LARP'er.

The unsung heroes are TN, IN, and the Dakotas.

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I agree. Don't know much about IN or the Dakotas but I love Tennessee. Still... I don't think TN has reversed course long term. Not yet. Seems to me they have only slowed the drift more than other states.

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Do you see the State of California as a positive check on what the City of Los Angeles would do on it's own?

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No, both are governed by corrupt politicians and controlled by government employee unions

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Right, so removing a layer shouldn't make things worse

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More like the conservative areas of the state putting a check on what the state does.

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The state would be gone, though. My guess is that one of the states would just be the LA metropolitan area and you're already subject to all the nonsense they want to do.

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I can't remember off the top of my head, but there were definitely some crazy state level ballot initiatives that failed (thankfully) that probably would have passed if it was just SF and LA voting

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You are correct. SF and LA almost always lead the way left and into madness. The rest of the state doesn't have the population to really hold them in check both at the ballot or in Sacramento. This is the basic thing that I have tried for twenty years to express to conservatives I know here.

When there were efforts that had more press to break up the state I never found a person on the right I know that was for it. This was pre-Covid. I still don't think there is enough clear headed thinking to see it.

Trumps election really gave the right wing over-confidence and they are gonna lose hard in the coming years for it. The divide culturally is getting wider, not closer. I see more conflict and more violence ahead unless the two sides actually start to think rationally.

People that profit off of this divide will perpetuate it until this happens.

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Maybe so. But the new City State of LA may not even have that legislative mechanism and those initiatives may not have even come up.

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