"The US is the power of Nato. For the US to secure the Arctic region to protect and defend Nato and Nato interests, obviously Greenland should be part of the US. And so that’s a conversation that we’re going to have as a country. That’s a process we’re going to have as a community of nations."
Sounds like it's a community of one.
This whole greenland discussion gives me Putin vibes, i wouldnt put anythign past Trump at this point tho
It's kind of a weird convo every which way... Very Ukraine-like, very bread-and-circus. Irrelevant piece of land that MSM et al throw tantrum over. Go away, everyone
I wonder which threat the public doesn't know about that got them so riled up that all this has to happen right now.
Narrative was seeded in Trump v1, these things are gamed out well in advance, so I doubt it's an imminent threat but rather a soft-disclosure of what's already been decided
If NATO breaks down over Greenland then that was always the plan, ex-NATO we can let Russia set up its perimeter in Eastern Europe without a significant (expensive) confrontation that doesn't benefit the US
At the same time, VZ gives China a pretext to simply use clandestine ops to out the Taiwan separatists without another expensive defense of what's little more than a CIA field office
WW3 avoided, US stays cozy in its freshly fortified hemisphere.
WW3 avoided for the US; the rest of the world will burn?
Look at who's saying it'll burn, the people that are wrong about everything... Panicans, Europoors, and the administrative deep state
WW3 wouldn't be a better alternative for Eastern Europe or Taiwan
Is the EU really benefiting eastern europe? Is pouring money into Taiwan's defense benefiting anyone? Does Poland really want total war over the largely uninhabited Suwalki gap?
Taiwan specifically doesn't add up, first thing people bring up is chips... which we've already been hedging for a decade... their share is going down not up, chips aren't a natural resource, the machines that make them can be moved/replicated
Only thing that gives me pause on Taiwan is the island chain narrative wrt naval projection, but Taiwan is still otherwise surrounded by protectorates like Phillipines, SK, and Japan... I don't think it's as big of an issue as the globalists make it sound
Oh I'm not saying that WW3 is the better alternative. Not at all. If I look at most analysts they're basically tagging this all as opportunistic. I'd love to believe that it's that simple but I feel that it would be kind of negligent to not look for alternative explanations.
The problem with your explanation is that it could be reasonable from a US perspective. It's also very, very cold. I'm not convinced that a lasting majority of Americans will feel that way for a century, or even does so now.
Well, we could wish Russia and China didn't feel the need to expand their security perimeter... Maybe they don't, and we're being lied to by them and our own...
But taken at face value, what are the options? Seems it's either negotiation or WW3
I don't see negotiation as cold, but rather the most caring thing... but I'm also a realist. The general public virtue signals and has been brainwashed for decades to believe in bogeymen and sacrifice blood and treasure for the globalists
You raise a good point though in that the public has to be un-brainwashed to avoid WW3... How do we do that?
I actually think that operation is underway.
Psyop WW3. Scare people awake. Show them what the globalists nearly brought them to ... Bring them to the precipice, power outages, tactical nuclear strikes (controlled, low impact), cut undersea cables taking offline the Internet, emergency broadcast system... Controlled hysteria... All a cooperatively designed through back channels as part of the negotiations.
They paint Trump as a Russian collaborator and have since day one, Trump calls Xi his friend.
The most likely scenario is they're all working together to avoid WW3 with consideration for optics. WW3 = WWE
I'm going to steal this.
I'm sure the others will be playing that game right along. They need time.
Good question. I have.been thinking about that a lot. I have seen theories that the repo activity, (not) QE, and the out of control precious metals prices might indicate that banks are in trouble, but who knows?
I'm thinking more of geopolitical things than economic things. Especially when it comes to Miller but I really don't like that guy so I'm biased af. But you could be right. I don't know.
I'm neutral on the question, but I think the "NATO" angle is weak.
However I think this is better rhetoric:
He should elaborate that geographically, Greenland is part of North America therefore its only natural we see it as part of our territory.
Trust me, its not lost of me that that question of "by what right" applies to every country on earth! (eg. they all just claim their land by 'might'). But its more effective rhetoric because once we go down that road, the mind naturally conjures up the image of "if Denmark is claiming Greenland purely because they can, then why can't a stronger nation simply claim it?"
I'm not arguing this is ethical or moral, its simply better rhetorical argument.
Canada would seem like a more logical choice, but our president wants that too under the "Donroe Doctrine" (I love that)
Greenland is under the apogee of any ICBM's and where submarines can come across the arctic, not Canada
" Some people say Donroe Doctrine"
One of the funnest lines he's had in a while.
Something is rotten in Denmark
Greenland is in North America, if Denmark wants war with USA then I say we give them what they want and more
I imagine Denmark's claim traces back to the original European settlements. That doesn't make it the right arrangement, but it isn't entirely arbitrary either.
It seems like the obvious course of action is to hold a local referendum after making a sweetheart offer. If the Greenlanders vote to join the US as a territory, no one else would have any grounds for objection.
It's a good idea in theory, but in practice both sides of national referendums tend to accuse the other of cheating.
I'm not saying it would be the right way. Of course both sides will accuse each other of cheating (and they'll probably both be right!)
The point is, if Greenland holds a referendum that comes out in favor of joining America and America says "Welcome aboard!", nobody else is in a position to meaningfully object.
Isn't this literally the same argument Argentina makes about the Falklands? "It's obviously part of South America?"
He has plenty of off the wall beliefs. it wouldn't matter if he wasn't in charge of policy.
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