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First of all, if Satoshi was/is Christ then Satoshi didn't replace Christ, no more than I am "replaced" by my pseudonym here on SN. So on a basic logical level you are suggesting that I adhere to a position that I don't, let alone tried to convince you of.
Secondly, given that we are governed by hypocrites who for more than a thousand years governed in opposition to Christ, yet in His name, why would you assume that Christ would return in His own name, rather than with a pseudonym? Nothing in Revelations suggests that.
On a more sophisticated, less literalist level, even if Satoshi were just a guy, completely unaware that his ideas are tethered fundamentally to the core principles of Christianity and the Crucifixion, that doesn't change anything in what I said. He doesn't replace Christ.
There is no rational way of reading what I said that infers that I was replacing Christ with Satoshi.
I think we agree on the corruption of power; where we part ways is on how Scripture describes Christ’s return.
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You haven't parted ways at all, you just gracelessly dismissed something that made you feel uncomfortable. The 4 tenets, rules, commands, principles, pillars, IS The Way - to me, to you, to Neolithic man, to a peacock, etc...
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I'm open to continued dialogue when we're talking about the biblical text itself rather than each other.
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I'm open to continued dialogue when we're talking about the biblical text itself rather than each other = I want you to play the proof of work game that Christians have established as the means to determine the authority of a person's voice on all things pertaining to Christianity, because:
- adhering to scripture is hard, demonstrates effort, sacrifice, work
- the Bible is a text that is verifiable, it is a shared text, the highest hill that replaced the Mount in Jerusalem after the fall of the second Temple, as the Torah did for the Jews who didn't adhere to Christianity, much like the Blockchain is for bitcoin
- anyone can read and quote the Bible, you don't have to be a part of the clergy
- a person with their own access to scripture is sovereign, takes responsibility for their own relationship with God (very Lutheran, I know)
I'm describing the rules underneath the game you want me to play to validate that my opinion matters, the same rules that determine which miner gets to decide which transactions are included in the next block (whose opinion matters). Why bother, when the important thing is not the game but the rules that underpin ALL stable games? That's what Christ died for. Let's cut through the bullshit, the hypocrisy, shall we?
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I’m willing to discuss anything in the text openly, from Genesis to Revelation. If there’s a specific passage in Revelation that says, or even implies, that Christ returns under a pseudonym, I’m happy to discuss it.
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Exactly, you're willing to discuss if I follow the rules. I'm describing the rules. We agree. You just don't seem to like hearing about them so explicitly and in this channel, you'd prefer if Gabriel himself came down and shared them with you directly.
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I agree that we're working from different assumptions. I'm approaching the faith in the Messiah through the witness of Scripture and revelation, not a shared set of abstract rules or system logic.
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No, I'm approaching the faith in the Messiah through the witness of Scripture and revelation, and you're ignoring the shared set of abstract rules and logical system that this reveals. Why do you think it's called "Revelation"? This is what is revealed.
Just open your mind and consider what I'm saying, rather than dismissing it. I know it's a painful experience, but Christianity isn't easy.