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0 sats \ 11 replies \ @Signal312 14 Nov \ on: Some Soft Porn for @Cje95 and @Undisciplined - Enjoy! econ
Dude, I can't figure you out. You're insanely pro-China. Where does that come from? Care to enlighten us?
The British are a state-worshipping people. That's the source of his education.
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Its true the British Empire was built upon a partnership between the state with its navy and cannons and its merchants and traders. East India Company for example.
Yes I am descended from British blood and live in a former colony, New Zealand, where now we are a subservient tribute state monetarily and militarily to the USA- but most of our trade is now with China.
China pays the best price fro our commodities and supplies us with the best priced manufactured goods we cannot produce ourselves- like most other nations on earth today.
NZ was the first developed western nation to enter a FTA with China.
USA has always refused to give us anything like the FTA we have with China...because of US farmer lobbys.
So much for 'free trade free markets' USA- its the biggest closed market/trade bloc in the world for us except perhaps for the EU.
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What is this "tribute state" nonsense? New Zealand is free to ally itself with whoever it wants. If Japan voted to be communist, the US can't stop them. We don't have vassals.
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When WW2 ended NZ politicians went to Washington and signed us up.
The British Empire was dead and the US was the new empire.
Bretton Woods was the monetary part of it and military alliance was the other.
The US had protected NZ from Japanese capture- the power and significiance of the US was undeniable after Hiroshima and Nakasaki.
Since then we have been monetarily and militarily subservient tribute state to the US just like Canada, Australia, Japan, S.Korea, the EU and UK.
NZ is part of the 5 eyes US surveillance network and gained the codes to the USSRs comms via an embassy in NZ.
NZs banking system is 80% dominated by US majority shareholder owned banks.
Those banks gain capital funding via tax havens intermediaries and channel billions back to their US owners tax free.
NZs military is highly derivative of the US and what we buy in terms of hardware is prescribed by the US.
The US military, petrodollar and US hegemony are all part of the same empire of global power projection dominance. It pasy to be aligned with that- or at least it has done until recently when US went Trumpian/Isolationist/Insane - denying climate change and siding with autocrats. Trump knows the empire is in trouble but his population are still mostly ignorant of the true challenge China now represents.
Antway, when NZ declared Nuclear Free in the 1980s the US cancelled our membership to the ANZUS military alliance and closed access to key US markets. Not allowing US nuclear powered and armed warships into our ports was explicitly punished...and still is.
There is no doubt the US uses its military and monetary hegemony to advance its own interests...and that NZ and the others are subservient tribute states.
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It's still an independent government. You socialists always act like withholding cooperation and aid is some kind of oppressive threat. New Zealand is free to side with communism if they want.
US went Trumpian/Isolationist/Insane - denying climate change and siding with autocrats
I don't even believe that you're genuinely gay enough to buy into this narrative. The Trump administration runs on the same policies as Bill Clinton. But ok, if you just want to keep calling him Hitler go ahead. It never worked domestically but maybe you can convince the UN to kick us out. Please do.
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It is precisely and exactly subservient tribute status.
Trump realises the US empire is in terminal decline- he is no fool- his myopic deluded MAGA followers, not so much.
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Really? If you can't survive without access to US markets that makes you "subservient" to the US? Just trade with someone else.
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Am often describing how Chinas economic development is beating the wests crony capitalism but it is erroneous to assert I am pro China overall.
Just because I acknowledge the effectiveness of Chinas mercantile economic system with its mix of state led strategic development and subsidiary free markets does not mean I love all aspect of modern China.
As a westerner much of it is alien and frightening to me.
Have traded with china and read extensively on China...it pays to understand those you are dealing with!
I found China and Chinese culture and history are fascinating and complex but that many here on SN and in the west generally are woefully ignorant/misinformed and thus also fearful/ill-informed of China in terms of history and current situation.
There is nothing new about this- 'The Yellow Peril' was 19th century fear and hysteria about China. China is simply so alien to western minds that it is naturally a source of misunderstanding and fear- and misinformed ignorance.
Hoping to promote more understanding of this as it is a major challenge to our western democracies and the economic and cultural dominance western civilisation has enjoyed for the last 500 years.
Am not saying China is 'good' or 'bad' but that it is important to understand!
Strongly suggest reading about The Opium Wars and any or all of Peter Hesslers fantastic books on China ('Country Driving' is the best for gaining understanding of Chinas economic development strategy) for any westerner to gain a better understanding of China.
IMO our ignorance of China is the greatest danger to us ourselves and its an own goal if we do not get more knowledge and understanding of China.
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woefully ignorant/misinformed and thus also fearful of China in terms of history and current situation.
我在地圖上看得出來哪一邊是共產黨就夠了。
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You cannot credibly refute any of my above comment.
You are welcome to try...
Silence.
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Statism is impossible to refute. If you believe that the state is the final authority on economic matters then what's the point of any private sector conversation? There's no room for rational arguments if we live in a system where whoever is the best gunslinger gets to decide what everyone else does with their money.
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