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Who/what are your favorite thinkers, ideas, quotes, books, pieces of art, etc. on ego and humility.
We should all know by now the line 'stay humble and stack sats', also, not to mention, the conversation on egolessness regarding Satoshi, but I'm curious to know how the community really thinks about ego and humility.
Some of the big names I always come back to are Marcus Aurelius (power as a burden), Lao Tzu (flow), Dōgen, Meister Eckhart, C. G. Jung (shadow-work), Epictetus. Maybe you have others?
Humility sure doesn't get much press in our culture.
I seem to remember Nikos Kazantzakis' Saint Francis had some good passages on the topic. But it's been a decade since I read it.
It's such a tricky thing to nail down. I used to be quite interested in it, but often found that describing humility often slips into something that looks like "being down to earth" or even "having self-confidence."
I'm curious how you describe humility.
Also if you have any passage from the Dao that you found particularly good on it.
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Thanks for the Kazantzakis recc. I will give it a look.
As far as I have worked out (standing on the shoulders of giants) to me it all seems to be about 1) knowing yourself and your limits and respecting those limits. and then proving that you respect those limits with your behavior, rather than just saying you do 2) repairing what wrongs you have caused 3) keeping your promises 4) carrying your downside, that if you take risks you are the one who bears the cost of failure, not finding ways to push that others, no blaming others, asking for exceptions, making excuses, etc.
As for Lao Tzu, he is a master for a reason. So many good ones that really make you think (paraphrasing):
  1. The best is like water: it benefits all things and does not contend. It dwells in low places that others avoid.
  2. Rivers run to the sea because it lies below them. Thus it becomes king of a hundred valleys.
  3. I have three treasures: compassion, frugality, and not daring to be first under Heaven.
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33 sats \ 1 reply \ @fiatbad 14 Nov
For me, it was Eckhart Tolle's books. "The Power of Now", and "A New Earth".
And the book "Awakening the Buddha Within" by Lama Surya Das.
But nothing builds humility more than science. Learning how the universe works, and how small you are in the grand scheme of things, is powerful. Thus, the books from Richard Dawkins, such as "The God Delusion" can be incredibly humbling. Nothing can be less humble than a belief in the supernatural.... especially a god belief.
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Nice yea I figured Tolle might be brought up. I have to check out his books with more rigor. Lama surya das is a legend too. I’m not a fan of Hawkins but I definitely appreciate your comment. I will check out that book and see what I can learn about humility. I do agree that it is important to always try to remember how small we in comparison to the vast universe. Unfortunately tho I’ve noticed that thought doesn’t help me much when it comes to the complexity of life and the things we deal with here in our lives.
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105 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 15 Nov
The main thing that keeps me humble is receiving most of my pleasure when I get better at things.
The less I think of myself the easier that is, because then I don't have to fear falling from some pedestal, false or not.
The only confidence I let myself keep is that if I want to get better at something, I can.
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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 14 Nov
I am
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 17h
Check out some of the Buddhas stuff.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Gian 23h
Etymology: humility early 14c., "quality of being humble," from Old French umelite "humility, modesty, sweetness" (Modern French humilité), from Latin humilitatem (nominative humilitas) "lowness, small stature; insignificance; baseness, littleness of mind," in Church Latin "meekness," from humilis "lowly, humble," literally "on the ground," from humus "earth"
Humility is a disposition, an attitude that arises chiefly from a constellation of intricate factors. Broadly speaking, it stems from a recognition of the world as an interconnected whole, in which every individual forms merely a part and every element serves its purpose. From this perspective, the folly of arrogance—of deeming oneself superior to others—becomes starkly apparent. Consider the liver: were it to proclaim its own supremacy over the heart or lungs and demand everything for itself, what havoc it would wreak. Humility, then, may be regarded as the outgrowth of a deeper comprehension of reality, expressed through human conduct. Yet it tends to fade once we fully grasp the context that envelops us; like all things, it fulfils a specific role. For this reason, it is not inherently a virtue. “It is just a ladder to climb and then be thrown away” (L. Wittgenstein-Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus).
Given that I regard humility as an attitude inherent to a journey, and thus a transient state, I should like to highlight the eminent figure of George Ivanovitch Gurdjieff.....
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Thanks ! Got subgratance ?#1272710
My internal etymology check of humility is like roots in the global sediment or dirt—humus. It’s the specific posture like repose or being "on the ground," a procedural check against the mind’s gravity. Roman aqueduct?
Going towards this motion, this attitude comes from seeing the other—the interconnected whole. It recognizes that a liver (Cori cycle much?) boasting of supremacy is a recipe for systemic failure because of having the ability to process merely 3 or 5 % as fuel.
Humility is like an internal compass that acknowledges we are a single, specific component in a vast, flowing manifold. Intuition or perception ?
But here’s a twist, the Gurdjieffian difference: humility is like a ladder. An aerobic house needs to be climbed because the flag is at the top. Or is it more like reinforced concrete and a winding slope that one climbs in a chariot up to the tippy top of a parking garage to do parkour?
It’s a temporary, options-based tool for a journey, (Sophia-like wisdom with respect to pain) not a permanent virtue.
Once you truly map the territory, then a map becomes an atlas.
FOD? Feelings -> Opinions -> Decisions
Understand precise, functional precision?
A place in the cosmic machine!?!
The goal isn't to stay on the ground, but to integrate the ground into your stride.
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