Yeah I don't expect sats back really. Even on my territory, the post fee is just a sybil fee and I just copied @k00b's low amounts for ~bitcoin and ~tech, because that seemed to work okay. The territory monthly fee makes more sense for people that see it as an investment, but whatevs, I've just tried to accommodate and if 50k is what it takes then for now I can afford to bleed that.

I've lately withdrawn my sats from rewards instead of just re-cycling them as CCs, simply because then my channel is empty sooner - I don't like closing private channels with a lot of sats in them and I'm having trouble using the one I have on Zeus w/ SN for anything other than buying CCs