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264 sats \ 11 replies \ @SimpleStacker 7h \ on: Lots Of Riders Without Their Weapons meta

To be fair, "gaming the system" is what SN's model implicitly assumes as given, and so the solution is to try to design a system that works well even under everyone's own self-interested behavior.

Maybe there should be a small incentive to attaching send wallets, like you get a boost in rewards, or your zaps are worth more trust.

The downside is that it makes it harder for SN to claim that "you can do everything with cowboy credits that you could do with a sat", and that opens up to more accusations of CCs being a shitcoin

249 sats \ 8 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 7h

I’ve said this before, you can have your sending wallet enabled and still not send any sats!

33 sats \ 7 replies \ @siggy47 OP 6h

I know, but you can't send sats without having an attached sending wallet.

80 sats \ 4 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 6h

Yeah, what I meant is that you can have the gun badge and not actually send any sats. You can trick the stackers, making it look like you’re sending sats when you’re really not.

33 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 OP 6h

Yes. That's true. I think that might be along the lines of what Darth is talking about? @DarthCoin

36 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 6h

No, I am talking about a different thing, the flaw in the rewards system. You can receive sats (from rewards) even that you use only CCs (no wallet attached at all). People think that throwing their CCs to me (because they do not want them) is meaningless, but in fact they just give me more rewards in sats.

That's why I repeat: rewards system must be eliminated. Users and territories must survive only with what users are zapping. SN will get a fee. That's all.

You pay to play.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fenix 3h

I was waiting this for November

36 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 6h

Not sure if @DarthCoin knew about this, I’ve already talked to @ek about it and even told him how it’s possible to do. Back then, he didn’t even figure it out until I told him! Hahaha.

36 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 6h

If you pay a QR code (which will show up if you don't have enough credits) with any lightning wallet, the receiver will also receive sats.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 6h

True

102 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 7h

My brain can't grasp the subtleties SN built in for incentives. I think zappers don't stand to lose much, if anything, in this scenario, because some of the cc's they receive will turn into sats. I agree gaming might be a bit harsh. It can be a giant annoyance to connect and keep an attached send wallet. At the same time, established stackers with plenty of knowledge who don't make the effort perhaps deserve to be singled out?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 7h

calling CCs a shitcoin is dumb. CCs are not a coin... are just credits to use SN. That's all.

Is really much easier to use CCs than an external wallet. In the end we are just shitposting on SN. Someday people will realize that Darth was always right...