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243 sats \ 12 replies \ @ek 7h \ parent \ on: SimpleX is launching a shitcoin 🚩 tech

I've had some issues with nostr chat apps, like 0xchat

Same. So unreliable it's unusable.

What's the state of the art in secure nostr messaging?

Haven't tried yet, but I think the latest contender is White Noise

200 sats \ 11 replies \ @siggy47 7h

Let's try White Noise.

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136 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 7h

Okay. I'll have a light review of the code tonight. It's flutter+rust so that be a review of the mild headache kind, but I'm getting used to that stack a bit more now.

(edit: holy shit dat commit message insanity - I'll probably be the first ever to actually look at the code other than Claude)

138 sats \ 9 replies \ @ek 7h

I’m already confused haha

Why do I need to “sign up” for a decentralised messenger? Who am I signing up with?

But I guess I’m just overthinking and most wouldn’t think about this.

44 sats \ 5 replies \ @siggy47 7h

I thought the same thing.

36 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 6h

~~Did you receive the message from some guy?~~

Oh, just saw your reply

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 6h

I guess the big issue is the actual send/receive reliability. Nostr traditionally sucks at that, right?

36 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism 5h

Not entirely sure what you mean, but if you mean discovery, it depends on your relay. The most popular relays can be slow sometimes, and I figured that this is why when I open Amethyst it takes up to 3-4 minutes sometimes to load everything up.

One of the things I think is needed w/ nostr is "offline-first", like email. I'd want to have a local cache of everything I've already seen; especially my own notes, and keep track of what got published where, republish when needed. This may feel antithetical to some nostr (pwa) dev patterns but local state should always trump relay state, even if you run your own relay.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 5h

All I meant was the nostr dms seem unreliable. I assume it's usually a relay thing. I like your idea of a local cache. A non tech guy like me just wants the thing to work.

169 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 5h

Designing for reliability is a bit of an art, and it's hard. It took Signal something like 4 months with at least half their dev team to finally deliver their backup feature in all its glory (and I must have seen every line of code, including the ones they reversed, lol) and these aren't noobs. So let's see what's what. If it's not reliable, maybe it can be made reliable. Affero isn't the worst license to contribute under when it's FSF-assigned (which whitenoise is.)

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44 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism 7h

No, you're not overthinking. "most" are underthinking.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 7h

I wonder if people would notice the issue with that

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 7h

People are literally buying stonks that only exist to buy Bitcoin from the stonk money raised. I doubt normieland cares.