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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford OP 28 Oct \ parent \ on: Which is Worse: Taxes or Fiat Money? econ
There is no such thing as voluntary taxes. Its either a donation or a price of services/goods. Taxes are more akin to what the mob does. Theft, or extortion. If you remove the threat of force it is no longer a tax.
When people refuse to admit what taxes actually are they get all tangled up in logic. You can make arguments for taxes but still admit they are theft. After all... people do pay off the mob because they know it is better than the alternative... but they aren't under any illusions about what is happening.
The God Father movies are under-rated in regards to anarchist thought.
I agree in principle, but obviously taxes aren't going away and there are degrees of consent that matters.
Pure libertarianism is utopian, it's just not going to happen. People who need stuff to live will always use force to take it from you. You can cry about it and shout moral indignations, but the truth is that they are not stopped because most people feel that taxes are morally justified, and they consent to them. The degree to which a population consents to a tax, versus being coerced by a coordinated and powerful minority who exploits them, is the degree of "voluntarism" that I'm describing.
The reality is that the vast majority of people want to live in a world where the government taxes the population equitably and transparently to pay for stuff like fire brigades and water treatment facilities, however utopian it is to believe that the right to tax is then limited to basic public services & utilities.
In other words, getting rid of fiat sets a more reasonable limit on governments capacity to tax.
If I need bread to live you can call me a thief but if you try to stop me I will kill you. Maybe I'll say "yeah, so what?" What's your point, that society must be morally pure and cleansed of all indignity and injustice?
You think you're being clever but it's really just delusional solipsism and sociopathy.
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Some people say playing the lottery is a kind of ‘voluntary tax’ (a tax on people who are bad at math), because it’s basically a voluntary contribution that makes the government richer. ahahah
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