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As some of you will know, I lived in Moscow for like a decade, and my in-laws are Russian, so I still follow along with the nonsense going on.
There are quite a few Western YouTubers I see pop up in my YouTube feed, and sometimes I watch and almost envy how oblivious they are. Western media also falls into this trap, look how great the Russian economy is doing.
Youtubers walking around Moscow saying, “the economy looks fine to me,” look at all these new buildings, and I can’t help but laugh. Of course, it looks fine — because Moscow has always been like the Capitol from The Hunger Games: it feeds on the rest of the country.
From the Tsarist empire to the USSR to today’s Russia, power and wealth have always been sucked into the center. The state extracts — grain, oil, taxes, talent — and funnels it to the capital. Moscow gets the infrastructure, the high salaries, the investments, the cultural life. The regions get the scraps.
The Ukrainian famine (Holodomor) of 1932–1933 was also down to this: 3 to 5 million Ukrainians starved to death while their food stocks were confiscated and sent north to feed industrial workers in Moscow, Leningrad, and other urban centers.
We have Russian neighbors, too, who lament how expensive it has become here and then have a mental orgasm about some cheaper-priced whatever at home, but they never talk about the chronic fuel shortages in regions or the myriad of problems seen all over the country, apart from the major cities.
Russian regions are also basically just vassals. In the 1990s, regional governors at least had some control over their budgets and were independently elected into power. But Putin rewired the whole thing: now most taxes are collected nationally, sent to Moscow, and then redistributed back to the regions. That means local governments are no longer accountable to their citizens, only to the center.
Governors turned from regional leaders into glorified appointees. They don’t answer to their people — they answer to Putin. Their survival depends on loyalty and teet sucking, not competence. Instead of fighting for their region’s interests, they spend their time sucking up to Moscow, hoping to get a bigger piece of the pie.
So these simps rolling around Moscow don't have a fucking clue. And while, yes, Moscow is a fun city and, actually, is a pretty good city in many respects, it’s Potemkin prosperity, like Pyongyang. The wealth of the entire country vacuumed into one city while the rest of Russia is the supporting cast, unpaid extras making the Capitol look good.
I'm reading "Scale" by Geoffrey West right now, and the push towards urbanization and concentrating people into cities is a widespread pattern across the world, across economy types. "... When averaged over the next thirty-five years, about a million and a half people will be urbanized each week." (pg. 9)
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I'm sure it's significantly worse there, but it reminds me of how 7/10 richest counties in America are the ones that make up our capital region.
Unlike Russia, though, it hasn't always been this way in America.
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42 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford 6h
Unlike Russia, though, it hasn't always been this way in America.
Good point. The mistake many of us have made in looking at states is not realizing the things they have in common. Power and patronage. Centralizing forces suck wealth towards themselves.
I would say, that even in a free society, cities would have more wealth if I understand economic theory properly. The difference would be the reasons why.
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Yeah, in a free society you could think of it as places that produce wealth become cities.
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US wealth is largely derived from its extraction of wealth from all other countries. US exceptional privilege built upon the petrodollar. Use our fiat USD shitcoin to make trade payments or we will bomb the fuck out of you. Top 1% have 90% of the wealth in 'the land of the free' USA today. USA today is a crony capitalist empire - that's in decline.
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73 sats \ 1 reply \ @lunanto 7h
Hunger Games is a bold comparison! Moscow’s definitely flashy, but is it really that different from other countries where capitals dominate?
Next thing you’ll tell me Putin’s hosting a tribute parade on Red Square.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 6h
Thought the same thing. Look at the greater DC area in the US. The centers of power in a state always suck wealth to themselves. The ring of power draws all men towards itself.
Not to mention that all cities have more wealth than rural areas. There are many economic reasons for this outside of any evil/state factors.
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I live in Russia, not in Moscow, but in Ural mtn's city, and I call this post bullshit.
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @kepford 6h
Interesting. Why?
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typical propaganda bullshit. I'm too lazy to refute every point.
btw, when you see somebody mentioning holodomor, you just pass by. you know what's it all about - "Russia bad"
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford 6h
holodomor
No clue what that is.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @anon 6h
btw, when you see somebody mentioning concentration camps gas chambers, you just pass by. you know what's it all about - "Nazi bad"
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 5h
Yeah, I looked it up. Sheesh.
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It's true, it was like that in Cuba too. All the provinces had to send food, money, doctors, etc. to Havana to sustain the city.
Communist countries are like that.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford 6h
Do you think Russia is still Communist? If so, why? Do you mean functionally (state) or the mindset of the people/culture (nation)?
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @guerratotal 5h
No, Russia is no longer communist economically, but it remains the same politically: everything revolves around the leader, and no one can contradict him. They've changed the anthem, the flag, and the party name, but the system of power remains the same—centralized, authoritarian, and paranoid. Instead of "Comrade Stalin," it's now "Tovarich Putin." And yes, the opposition still has the bad habit of "falling" out of windows hahahhaha
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 1h
No dispute from me. As terrible as that is... communism is actually even worse. That's the lesson to me. The more I learn about Russian history the more terrible it looks. Its one terrible thing after another. I really feel for the average Russian pleb.
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25 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 6h
Gonna play devils advocate here so humor me.
Moscow gets the infrastructure, the high salaries, the investments, the cultural life
Its a city. This is true of cities across the globe right? Even in relatively free-market states like the USA or the UK.
now most taxes are collected nationally, sent to Moscow, and then redistributed back to the regions. That means local governments are no longer accountable to their citizens, only to the center.
Sounds terrible... also sounds like the USA. State and local taxes are a fraction of the Federal ones here for most people. The Feds use the distribution of funds back to states and localities as a control mechanism and have for decades.
I have no dog in this hunt. I enjoy reading the perspectives of people with actual experiences. I have heard that even though Russia is far from perfect and has serious issues it has massively improved since the fall of the USSR and the disastrous attempt to introduce free market capitalism. I'm not a Putin fan but I have heard Russian intellectuals say that Putin in the minds of Russians is a hero for leading them out of the disaster of the collapse of communism and capitalism. Even though he is a strong man / dictator his is a "great man" in many Russian's eyes for the results he is seen as being responsible for.
That sounds plausible. It can get worse and all of the things you describe sound plausible and worse than a truly free society. It also sounds similar to the US and many states across the globe. It doesn't sound like anything to emulate at all.
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Putin is a war criminal. He needs to be got rid of.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Sandman 4h
Well you have said it. Moscow looks rich. It takes money from all Russia. Other places are poor. Youtubers see only Moscow. They don’t know the truth. Regions have no power. Leaders obey Putin. It’s fake wealth
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Akg10s3 4h
Maybe my opinion isn't quite comparable to the topic since I'm in South America!! But I want to say that here in Lima, the capital of Peru, the same pattern of command and distribution occurs!! Here in the capital, there's everything, and it's reasonably affordable... While in the provinces or more remote areas, the services are extremely poor, and many people don't have even basic services!!
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @carter 5h
I wonder if China is the same
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 5h
Im kind of inclined to believe the opposite of everything I read about Russia. Good or bad.
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i prefer Saint Petersburg; that city has a huge collection of classic Tartarian architecture, and there are countless art pieces that have never been seen by the public eye, sitting in the museums' undergrounds; many amazing classic Russian authors came from that city;
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Tartarian
wanted to correct you, but TIL... "a variant spelling of Tatarian"
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ага, Татары; когда-нибудь как-следует почитаю Русскую историю и подумаю что именно случилось с той империей;
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