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I recently read the book "The 48 Laws of Power" by the writer Robert Greene, and I deduce that's where the mystery came from...
Before I opened my mind, the concept of corruption was...
CORRUPTION = POLITICIANS
The main reason for my thinking is that I come from a country with 30 years of socialism (not Cuba)...
And during a 10-year period, I had to confront the situation of corruption in a more brutal way, even going as far as the simple task of obtaining basic food for my family...
Until I was able to obtain my passport, for which I had to pay three times its actual price because supposedly, after a 3-month wait, the ID and immigration office never had any material to print them!
But at the same time, with a friend of my paternal uncle, I obtained the document in record time—48 hours (without anyone knowing 🤫)...
Thought changes, concepts adapt, even if you don't want to. Even if you're a person with principles, and your parents raised you correctly, and when you see corruption everywhere, you accept it as your way of survival.
With this, I'm not claiming to be the most correct or incorruptible person!
Come on, I'm just a normal person...
You yourself said it. Corruption is born from game theory: if one side can move the pieces at will at any time, as many times as he wants, and you can move yours as long as said side gets to dictate what piece, when, where, and how many times... and said side can not make any wrong moves, and all of his moves are victories, and has full authority to judge if a move of yours is wrong, and what's the punishment... the outcome is pretty obvious...
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In general Chinese correctly recognise the crucial role government can play in economic performance. The cynical crony capitalist neoliberalised west has largely forgotten this...because bankers and capital have come to own the narrative and their 'democratic' governments and the resultant crony capitalism is not delivering economic improvement for most people. The Libertarian ideology tragically plays into the hands of crony capitalism. #1255763
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Honestly, I've received a lot of interesting responses to this post, which have undoubtedly strengthened my thinking regarding how the issue of government or politicians can be viewed in relation to corruption! Thank you all!
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12 sats \ 0 replies \ @adlai 14 Oct
In many cases, corruption is synonymous with lack of transparency.
Let's take the document renewal example; if that excuse were true, and someone showed up with money [or even the raw materials], and were given priority in the line, would people still scream corruption? They definitely would, if there was no explanation given of why someone suddenly got serviced out of turn.
In your specific case, the increased transparency [given by your explanation] shows that "corruption" is too general a term, and the specific social force at play here was nepotism. While nepotism definitely doesn't explain away all instances of corruption, it is a much older and more fundamental social force than financial bribery, and might help show that the various forms of corruption are probably older than history and maybe also older than money.
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I think it's a difficult thing to describe. We could say that corruption comes from evil people blinded by their greed. But in cases like the one you mention, when corruption becomes normal, it's often impossible to avoid it, even if we're people with principles and ideals of acting correctly.
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Most people will tolerate corruption where it serves them. The dominant nations of the world enjoy hegemony over the less powerful nations and extract wealth and resources from the less powerful. This is the reality of imperialism. The dominant nations use their power to enrich themselves and there tends to be less corruption within those nations while the 'developing' nations tend to suffer from more corruption internally. It is very difficult for citizens of weak nations where the government is internally corrupt. The citizens of the wealthy nations are mostly prepared to turn a blind eye to the way their governments extract wealth from less powerful and dominant nations because those citizens benefit from that hegemony. Many would even deny they benefit from the extraordinary privilege enjoyed by their globally dominant nation states citizenship. Competition for resources and territory is embedded in our DNA and the notion of corruption is a layer of ethical coding/sophistry overlaying the deeper drives of our DNA.
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Phenomenal response! I appreciate it!
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Corruption is inherent in human nature. People like to blame governments but we are all the government and we are all prone to corruption. The only way forward is to constantly work toward achieving less corruption- it is up to all of us- blaming 'the government' is a lazy cop out popular with Libertarians in particular - it is inherently an act of blame-shifting and indicative of the human nature where we seek to pass the buck. We all know we are prone to taking short cuts- we all know that merchants given half a chance will seek to fix prices and rentseek- working actively toward achieving good/better government is our best chance of minimising these debilitating behaviours but we must recognise that corruption will never be completely eliminated as long as humans walk the earth- because the tendency toward corruption is within all of us.
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Most people are corrupt. People want governments- they need governments- without governments they are weak and vulnerable to any other group that gets organised and develops the capability to seize wealth and territory wherever the opportunity presents itself. Without government you would be a quivering wreck. Governments provide the legal framework and security whereby people can invest and produce wealth- without governments its not easy or wise to invest much. And so governments tax to fund their functioning. Get over the poor me Libertarian cry baby BS. Governments are the primary drivers of the wealth of nations.
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10 sats \ 2 replies \ @adlai 14 Oct
Governments are the primary drivers of the wealth of nations.
Setting aside the quoted hilarious tautology; most of what you wrote is an overgeneralisation. Modern "government" lumps together lots of different organizations, and part of the neverending effort of participating in politics as a libertarian, rather than just darthing out into the wilderness, is to privatise or "factor apart" the monolithic structures into ones that are both less mutually dependent and easier for individuals to navigate.
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Libertarians were bottle fed neoliberalism. Neoliberalism was the true beginning of corporate/banker imperatives coming to own and control government. Neoliberalism was were the bankers took over control of our democracies. Libertarians are going even further into enabling crony capitalism - they are demonstrably incapable of even engaging in reasoned debate. Such as your comment above which fails to address let alone refute any of the assertions and arguments I made prior to it...except by attempting to dismiss them as generalisations- yes they are generalisations but that does not logically dismiss them. There are of course examples of where government can be improved - but that does not dismiss the truth inherent in generalisations above. Neoliberalism/Libertarians culture of crony capitalism opened the door to China winning the trade war and beginning the end the 500 years of global hegemony western civilisation has enjoyed. www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uLpICsNTV4
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Thank you for your response!
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