Germany, Belgium, Latvia, and Italy UNDECIDED. If Germany supports it, it will be approved.
In that case, messaging platforms will have to implement it before October 14th, 2025. With so little time, it is impossible to build such thing with good security.
If you are an EU Citizen, you can use the mail template in fightchatcontrol.eu to send it to your MEP’s.
Will you be able to use NOSTR and slide under the radar?
How do they stop PGP?
Good question, but I think Google, Apple and Microsoft (and/or hardware manufacturers) will gladly help to spy on us
I think there is a risk in running a node in those places. Have to be careful. But don’t submit.
That is a risk. If I were over there I would consider getting an old phone and using one of the open source OS that degoogle your phone.
Google Pixel and Graphene?
That is what I had in mind. Not sure that would get you under the radar tho by the sound of it.
Maybe a pixel with graphene and esim from a place like https://silent.link/ Won't have enough bandwidth to run all my nodes though, so will move more of them to anon clouds. But I do hope that dumb European bureaucrats are unable to create a true water tight dystopia.
Nostr clients that don’t comply will probably get banned. I’m sure the EU will ask ISP’s what users are using Nostr, IPTV, Torrents, IPFS and Tor (and VPN’s); to add them to some “criminal” list.
What are they proposing exactly? And what exactly do messaging platforms have to implement???
They want to scan all communications (even end to end encrypted) between EU citizens. Messaging platforms have to send all your messages to EU servers before encryption so they can check if you have CSAM.
SO wait... all the platforms have to change their code/encryption algorithms to be in compliance?
What if they say 'no'? 'We won't do it?' Etc etc
Furthermore, what happens to signal, proton etc? They won't comply. And those apps can't be 'shut down' either because they are widely available.
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Yep
They will probably be fined and blocked in the EU.
They’ll leave the EU market. (https://x.com/mer__edith/status/1796508893822238881)
Oh, and this rule doesn’t apply to politicians, only to normal people.
EU is such a captured corrupt cesspit.
We are private citizens, our communications will be private.
They are public servants, their communications will be made public.
This will happen regardless of their rules and regulations.
https://legacy.www.documentcloud.org/documents/23819681-law-enforcement-working-party-document-encryption/
Ridiculous, they cannot stop end-to-end encryption.
Google and Apple can censor messaging apps to cc big brother before encrypting.
Will "all the mesaging platforms" have to start identifying EU citizens? This will be fun. As a non-EU citizen living in the EU I will strongly oppose all this shit. Because I have no influence whatsoever on what they vote for.
I was wondering, will "different" communication systems like BitChat Mesh be victims of the reform or will they be the new frontier of private communication in Europe?
Bitchat shouldn’t get affected as it doesn’t connect to the internet when in bluetooth mode. And it uses Tor so you’ll be anonymous anyway.
I'm so ashamed to be European right now, but I believe in resistance, I will defend my privacy by all means necessary.
God the europeans are so fucking stupid.
If it gets passed can it be positive in the sense of more people using alternatives? Degoogled phones exploding the market? Of course I am talking about marginal terms
Regulators can't easily "mandate" scans on your phone talking directly to the one next to it it's like trying to wiretap a carrier pigeon mid-flight...
Breaking encryption to scan private chats will not make us safer....
They don't want you safer, they want their precious revolution. It's their Valhalla.