I have supported that claim multiple times with facts- none of those supporting arguments have ever been refuted. Do you even know what my supporting arguments are? If you can refute them credibly I would be most impressed...otherwise you perhaps have not even considered them...in your haste to dismiss this perhaps frightening topic.

China dominating global trade in manufactured goods and commodities is not relevant to Bitcoin or SN more generally? Really? I would not agree. SNs as a Bitcoin based and strongly Libertarian forum is imo an ideal place to raise the issue of Chinas economic and global rise. It raises many interesting, relevant and challenging issues for Libertarians and Bitcoiners.

'As Yuval Levin of the American Enterprise Institute put it in his book “American Covenant” (2024), “The breakdown of political culture in our day is not a function of our having forgotten how to agree with each other but of our having forgotten how to disagree constructively.” Disagreeing constructively requires that you first consider the arguments with which you purport to disagree.'

You have claimed first up that you lived in China for 15 years - so that is a substantial amount of first hand experience, if true. None of your subsequent comments evidence any direct and detailed personal experience or knowledge of modern China so maybe it was a false claim.

However since when exactly do we need to be experts to discuss any topic??? Is freedom of speech and the contest of ideas it enables not still operative???

I welcome any constructive contribution to this debate - but am constantly amazed and disappointed that almost none has occurred, but still remain optimistic and a believer in the power of freedom of speech to both raise issues and increase knowledge and understanding and ultimately potentially lead to solutions.

Already I believe it has been established there is a huge chasm of denial and fear around this topic and that in itself motivates me to raise it more, rather than be silenced by people demanding silence and ignorance.